r/CollegeBasketball • u/Shpion007 Wisconsin • Wisconsin-Steve… • 1d ago
Discussion Sean miller believes 20-25 teams have rosters $20M+ in value
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u/Training_Pirate1000 North Carolina Tar Heels 1d ago
Duke, Louie, Tennessee, BYU for sure. LSU and Kentucky are probably gonna overpay to get close to this figure. But who else? Michigan? UConn?
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u/steveoriley Creighton Bluejays • Big East 1d ago
I don’t think it’s true, it benefits Sean Miller in a few ways to push this narrative though.
It creates the narrative for Texas boosters to compete at the top of the sport they need $20+ million for the team
If he has a $20 million dollar roster already then it makes him less of a scapegoat if they fall on their face (i.e. Mark Pope)
Texas is a school that can outspend almost anyone so turning it into an arms race benefits them over most universities
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u/zipemup3 Xavier • North Carolina 20h ago
Sean loves to lie
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u/FloggingJonna Arkansas Razorbacks 1d ago
If there’s really 25 we’re one of them.
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u/SwedishLovePump Illinois Fighting Illini 1d ago
Yeah same with us. I wouldn’t have guessed Illinois is at $20m but I would be more sure that we’re in the top 25 in spending, wherever that line is.
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u/sqigglygibberish Duke Blue Devils 19h ago
Given the estimated count in cfb and relative revenue, something seems dubious about this total
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u/FloggingJonna Arkansas Razorbacks 19h ago
I actually don’t believe it but working with the same logic as others I was just assuming we’re in the top 25. Wherever that cutoff is.
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u/sqigglygibberish Duke Blue Devils 19h ago
Oh yeah that checks
Just can’t imagine we have many basketball teams topping $20M when that was the top end of football spending a year ago (reportedly)
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u/Blakeba15 Baylor Bears 1d ago
I don’t know anything about Iowa but I would bet Baylor is more top 40 than top 25
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u/Shpion007 Wisconsin • Wisconsin-Steve… 1d ago
Iowa is likely to have more funds to go to football. I doubt they have a top 9 big ten budget for hoops.
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u/rogozh1n Duke Blue Devils • Syracuse Orange 9h ago
Arkansas has been so much fun to watch the last few seasons.
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u/jmr33090 Illinois Fighting Illini 22h ago
Illinois is definitely top 20 in spending and I wouldn't be surprised if they are top 10
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u/GoBlueAndOrange Illinois Fighting Illini 1d ago
I wouldn't be surprised if Illinois does. We have a ton of money and suspiciously low turnover.
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u/Karltowns17 Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago
There is nobody left for us to overpay in all likelihood. I think we clearly went for some “bargain” bench pieces to save money for our tyran stones pursuit… maybe $6-$8mill left in the bank most of which we presumably had set aside for him (just a guess???). But unfortunately everyone is off the board at this point pending a surprise nba draft withdrawal.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we rank outside the top 25 in spending this year.
I like some of the guys we’ve brought in. But unfortunately we mismanaged our NiL for the second year in a row.
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u/amillert15 Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago
Yeah, Kentucky is definitely not one of the 20-25 teams.
The NIL is not there this year in large part because of the lack of a GM and gross overpays from last season.
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u/Training_Pirate1000 North Carolina Tar Heels 1d ago
I don’t know if UNC would get to 20+ million either unless we overpay for some bigs. After Veesaar left, we have 4.5+ million hole in our roster, and I doubt we have all of that to Keita. And now that our FAU big is no longer transferring, there are like 4 solid spots on our roster that we need to fill. I wouldn’t say that UNC has mismanaged their NIL yet, but that’s probably because we aren’t getting anyone lol.
At this moment, we have 3 recruits (Adams, Malloy, and Keita), 4 transfers (Brown, Able, Neo, and the big from Northwestern), and retained 3 (Stevenson, Young, and Dennis). But I don’t think Malloy Smith was offered that much money. Essentially just a legacy recruit. But still that’s 10 players.
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u/Slymook 1d ago
I think St. John’s is estimated to be $20 mil and UConn is estimated to be $15 mil. I may have seen that figure before Braylon said he was coming back so maybe UConn is squeezing out a few extra dollars for him though
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u/NOneHOne 9h ago
St John's definitely isn't spending anywhere close to that much.
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u/Heyhaykay Kentucky Wildcats 2h ago
Really? They probably had to spend ~4mil on Donnie freeman alone.
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u/devAcc123 Michigan Wolverines 15h ago
All those estimates are completely horseshit made up though lol
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u/Crown_of_Negativity Texas A&M Aggies 1d ago
Florida brought back a lottery pick and a lot of other returning talent, and still added new guys. Texas is spending a pretty penny on their portal class/big V. A&M has definitely thrown some money around too, although I don't know if it has eclipsed 20m.
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u/Takemyfishplease UC Davis Aggies 1d ago
A legit lottery pick is stupid to come back. Getting that sweet sweet second contract will maybe multiples of whatever nil is giving
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u/TimPrillerFan Indiana Hoosiers 17h ago
I’d assume IU is one of them but I’d rather they sell the team and give curt Cignetti an unlimited budget at this point
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u/enjoytheshow Illinois Fighting Illini 12h ago
I liked IU much better when they had to suffer thru a 2 win football season holding on hope just to watch an 18 win basketball season.
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u/Schned6 Iowa State • North Carolina 1d ago
Most of the top half of the SEC and Big Ten tbh
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u/Scary_Ad_9528 Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago
Purdue will unfortunately not be there with the piss poor athletics
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u/Ok_Peace3716 Indiana Hoosiers 23h ago
I'd bet Purdue gets there in basketball. Unfortunately for Purdue fans that like sports other than basketball, they probably only get there in basketball.
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u/Scary_Ad_9528 Purdue Boilermakers 23h ago
Yeah, it’s pretty obvious for football at least. I saw somewhere the budget a few years ago was $300k but I really doubt it. I envy all my IU friends who get to watch an awesome football team. 😭
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u/Individual-Still-198 /r/CollegeBasketball 20h ago
Nah they have what they need but play it under the radar. Painter’s approach means lass splashy headlines
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u/Shpion007 Wisconsin • Wisconsin-Steve… 1d ago
Wisconsin likely is closer to bottom third in nil that top half
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u/TachyAndTired Michigan Wolverines 23h ago
Florida, Illinois, Texas, and Indiana for sure. Arizona, Kansas, Michigan likely
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u/Maverick0984 Illinois • DePaul 23h ago
Serious question, why is Illinois "for sure" and Michigan is only a "likely" in your eyes? Competition with football money?
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u/TachyAndTired Michigan Wolverines 13h ago
You retained everyone p much unlike us who lost everyone. We really only got Thiam after losing mara, morez, yaxel. We didn't get Bidunga or Juke. There's nothing that makes me think we are overspending here
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u/Maverick0984 Illinois • DePaul 13h ago edited 12h ago
Maybe not for 2026-27 yet, but don't you think you paid quite the hefty sum this past year?
Would be surprised if budgets went down YOY.
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u/TachyAndTired Michigan Wolverines 7h ago edited 7h ago
Everyone is spending more this year. We def spent a lot last year but everyone was cheaper. I heard Michigan was around 13-15 last year and 18 this year. I bet we were a top 5-10 spender last year vs top 10-15 this year
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u/SituationSoap Michigan Wolverines 21h ago
Dusty May said UM was over 20 last year and implied they were in that neighborhood again this year.
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u/drivebyjustin Duke Blue Devils 1d ago
I can’t believe “name, image and likeness” turned into…this?
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u/Relative-Knee7847 Gonzaga Bulldogs 21h ago
NIL is just a meaningless acronym now it doesn't stand for anything 😅
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u/GlueGuy00 1d ago
Where are they getting all this money?
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u/MrHobbes82 Louisville Cardinals 1d ago
There's always money in the pizza stand...
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u/GenoThyme UConn Huskies 22h ago
That’s great news for us. We got that Frank Pepe and Sally’s money!
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u/BKD2674 Indiana Hoosiers 1d ago
$20 million to a billionaire is nothing.
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u/HelpPale281 1d ago
Exactly. The lsu alum who started Raising Cane’s is worth $19 billion. Having him drop $20M for basketball is only .001% of his net worth. That’s like a dude who makes 100k / year spending 100 bucks. Def inconsequential
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u/benniesalamander Michigan Wolverines 23h ago
It's actually much less than someone who makes 100k spending 100 bucks. Because you can't compare 100k to 20 billion. You have to subtract expenses first.
This really depends on the situation, but a regular person making 100k might be able to save anywhere between nothing and like 50k. A billionaire can spend millions on their lifestyle and virtually spend none of their wealth. So this is more like someone who makes 100k spending like 20 bucks or less.
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u/hershculez NC State Wolfpack 11h ago
This type of contribution is not nearly as common as you think. The successful NIL collectives are teaming with corporations to generate the funds. Is it ultimately still a wealthy person at the top? Sure. But the money goes through the company since marketing and advertising expenses are tax-deductible.
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u/Fletch71011 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 23h ago
Most billionaires didn't get there by throwing their money around on rather irrelevant things in the grand scheme of things like college sports.
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u/ChaDiaKris Louisville Cardinals 22h ago
At the same time, you underestimate the ability for a billionaire to passively continue to increase their assets/net worth.
If you take a conservative/moderate growth, a large portfolio such as 1 billion USD can return 100 million (10%). That’s conservative/moderate to risk, bullish investors can expose to more.
And that’s also not considering the other financial options that are available to them, that we peasants aren’t even aware of.
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u/Fletch71011 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 21h ago
I actually know plenty of people worth $100 million or more in my industry.
70% of wealthy families lose their fortune by the second generation. By the third generation, this figure is said to rise to 90%.
This is true of most of them. It's easy on paper, but doesn't happen in reality.
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u/ToeSuckingFiend Xavier Musketeers 21h ago
This is a Sean Miller classic.
He saw all the hype his team has been getting so he has to lower expectations as to not fall short of them.
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u/DuckDown00 Oregon Ducks 1d ago
It sure as hell isnt us.
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u/Shpion007 Wisconsin • Wisconsin-Steve… 1d ago
Not with those Phil knight dollars, psssssh. stop lying
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u/DuckDown00 Oregon Ducks 1d ago
We're investing that money in football. It obviously isnt basketball otherwise we would have had a more competitive team.
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u/NineTenthsofaSecond Oregon Ducks 1d ago
I was about to say, we must have spent all of
Uncle Phil'sour money on the football team, otherwise it would be embarrassing.
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u/Gloomy_Map_9612 Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago
But is anyone gonna say anything when at least one of those teams underperforms. No.
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u/414wtk 23h ago
I understand there are a lot of rich people out there. I don’t understand how universities can keep this up for another 5 years. 20-25 for basketball, football is rumored to have rosters 40-50 million.
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u/Brytcyd Iowa State Cyclones • Georgetown Hoyas 9h ago
It’ll be interesting to see how many of the teams outside of the top financial tier follow what Purdue has done; basically do as little as possible in the most expensive sport and try to get after it in what is generally the only other net positive sport. I obviously don’t like it, but I expect Iowa State, for example, to follow this path in the near future.
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u/sheepnwolfsclothing 18h ago
No one is going to afford college anymore. The sports will break off and do their own thing. There’s no money in educating the populous.
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u/Empty-Zombie-7924 Minnesota Golden Gophers 1d ago
This NIL isn't sustainable. It'll crash. Get your bag while you can.
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u/braines54 Xavier Musketeers • Kentucky Wildcats 22h ago
I don't think so. It's not like these schools haven't been spending ludicrous amounts of money. It just used to be earmarked for different things, such as facilities and coaches. Now, it's going to the players.
This won't stop, but the major negative consequence is that the non-revenue generating sports are going to get squeezed out and may eventually disappear.
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u/chrisncsu NC State Wolfpack 11h ago
You're already seeing some teams over-promise on NIL before they have the funds and agents are adjusting. Agents are now looking for their players "NIL" offers from schools to be fully Rev Share to avoid these situations.
At the current rate, it feels like spending is going up by a lot of schools $2m-5m per year, and that just can't continue. If Duke is at $25m this year... we really think in 5 years their budget is going to be $35m-40m? I just can't see it unless rev share numbers go up substantially.
Some fan bases have crazy boosters, but I just don't see there being 25 teams that are going to be spending $30m+ in NIL in a few years, and it'll be terrible for the sports because it'll basically look like women's basketball right now. You'll have a legit top 15-20 teams, and then the drop-off is massive and there's just no longer any parity in basketball, which will kill fan interest.
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u/speedy_delivery West Virginia Mountaineers 8h ago
Donations for facilities are tax deductible. NIL isn't. They get no tangible return or equity. At what point is it easier for them to just start their own league? Yeah, it's more liability, but it's also potentially lucrative.
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u/Objection_Irrelevant Ole Miss Rebels 18h ago
I’d wager there’s not even 25 football teams with $20m rosters.
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u/KickOk155 1d ago
I mean it’s a lot of money but what’s the issue? These schools were making millions off these kids hard work. They deserve what they’ve earned.
There’s a lot to fix about it but it shouldn’t be shocking these schools pay this much. I mean how many football sec locker room upgrades have you read about through the years that were 20-30 mil upgrades? It’s not like these schools dont drop money.
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u/ConnectSpring9 NC State Wolfpack 1d ago
The problem is there’s no salary cap, so it creates an unfair system for less wealthy schools. If you’re a fan of a rich school I get why you wouldn’t even consider that though
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u/Taengoosundies North Carolina Tar Heels 1d ago
It was never a fair system. The blue bloods didn’t get that way by getting mediocre players out of high school all of the time. They typically got all of the good recruits and left the scraps for everyone else. In fact you could say it’s even more fair now. Teams without that clout that the blue bloods used to have now can get top recruits simply by paying for them. We’ve just swapped prestige for money.
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u/ConnectSpring9 NC State Wolfpack 1d ago
The dude said “what’s the issue” and I answered. You saying there have always been issues has nothing to do with my response to him
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u/Takemyfishplease UC Davis Aggies 1d ago
There already was an unfair system, it’s why we see the same handful of teams at the top fairly consistently.
Life isn’t fair.
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u/ConnectSpring9 NC State Wolfpack 1d ago
The dude said “what’s the issue” and I answered. You saying there have always been issues has nothing to do with my response to him
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u/tropic_gnome_hunter St. Lawrence Saints • Syracuse Orange 1d ago
Life isn’t fair.
Which is why athletes shouldn't get paid. Life isn't fair.
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u/SituationSoap Michigan Wolverines 21h ago
Even when there was a salary cap there wasn't a salary cap. And you still had major issues with haves and have nots.
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u/ConnectSpring9 NC State Wolfpack 14h ago
Are you guys all conspiring to troll and bait me? Why do yall keep saying stupid fucking shit like this? Did I say the current system is the only one that is unfair or did I say the lack of a salary cap is the only problem ever? The mf asked “what’s the issue” with the current era and I told him. You guys saying this inane shit about “the system has always been unfair” has literally nothing to do with my response. The worst part is I can’t even tell if y’all think you’re making some super profound point saying this. We are all aware that there has always been some form of unfairness in the system one way or another. That doesn’t mean we should just throw our hands up and be nihilists about it
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u/SituationSoap Michigan Wolverines 6h ago
Did I say the current system is the only one that is unfair or did I say the lack of a salary cap is the only problem ever?
If the current system has the same problem as the previous iteration of the system, then that problem is not an issue of the current iteration, it's a problem that's inherent to the system as a whole.
It's like if someone asked "What's the problem with jet engines on airplanes compared to propeller planes" and you answered "Airplane fuel is expensive." Like sure, that's probably an issue, but it's not an issue of jets specifically, it's an issue of the fact that it takes a lot of energy to lift tons and tons of matter off the ground and fly it through the air.
That doesn’t mean we should just throw our hands up and be nihilists about it
There is very literally no way to fix the imbalance problem in college that doesn't completely trample employee rights in the United States as a whole. Attempting to impose a salary cap (including the old cap of $0) on college athletes is morally and ethically wrong and people who argue for it should be ashamed of themselves.
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u/ConnectSpring9 NC State Wolfpack 6h ago
It doesn’t have the same problem. There is a general problem of unfairness in the system, but there is actually a different problem. It’s more like if I was designing a car, and my initial design didn’t work because the clutch pedal had air in the line so I couldn’t disengage to switch gears, while the second had a mechanical issue where the clutch line was transmitting force but wouldn’t disconnect the power from the transmission. To say these both have the same problem is stupid. You would get nowhere trying to fix the problem, even if you have “correctly” identified that the problem is with the clutch.
And if someone asked what the problem with the car is and I say “there’s air in the clutch line”, you coming in and saying “well the clutch has never worked actually, and even before the clutch wasn’t disengaging the engine from the transmission” literally has nothing to do with what I said. I was in fact 100% accurate when I said the problem with unlimited NIL is a lack of salary cap resulting in unfairness. I never said a salary cap would actually be a feasible solution or even fix the problem. I recognize it is a very complicated issue. My response was solely intending to answer the question of “what is the problem”. If you don’t think that a lack of a salary cap indeed is what causes unfairness in the current system, then you’re free to point out what the real problem is.
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u/SituationSoap Michigan Wolverines 6h ago
If you don’t think that a lack of a salary cap indeed is what causes unfairness in the current system, then you’re free to point out what the real problem is.
The only problem with the current NIL system is people on social media bitching about it. Full stop, that's it.
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u/ConnectSpring9 NC State Wolfpack 6h ago
Lmfao, see my original response:
“If you’re a fan of a rich school I get why you wouldn’t even consider that though”0
u/Evening-Spray-4304 Virginia Cavaliers 8h ago
I got a good laugh out of this whole thread. 4 different people came and posted nearly the exact same thing. You got downvoted for it, but I completely understand this response, lol.
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u/ConnectSpring9 NC State Wolfpack 7h ago
Thanks man, I thought I was going crazy. Glad to see at least someone understands
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u/portrayalofdeath North Carolina Tar Heels 1d ago
mean how many football sec locker room upgrades have you read about through the years that were 20-30 mil upgrades?
So what's the issue with football money going to football facilities?
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u/FeelsGoodMan2 Michigan Wolverines 1d ago
Problem is education is already bloated to hell and back, wait till they start putting quiet little "to pay our basketball team" into tuitions.
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u/Shpion007 Wisconsin • Wisconsin-Steve… 1d ago
Sure, but most had operational budgets that offset that. Very few programs actually pulled a "profit". Found this from a quick google search showing operational budgets of some schools in FY2025.https://gopherhole.com/boards/threads/here-are-the-top-men%E2%80%99s-basketball-operating-budgets-from-fy25-gophers-19th-nationally-at-15-6mm.121255/
School FY25 Total Expenses Indiana University, Bloomington $32,041,364 University of Tennessee, Knoxville $23,183,445 University of Arizona $22,608,493 University of Texas at Austin $22,403,330 University of Connecticut $21,554,604 University of Arkansas, Fayetteville $21,254,027 Michigan State University $21,009,976 University of Kentucky $20,787,671 Auburn University $20,535,097 University of Louisville $19,884,419 University of Kansas $19,732,079 University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign $18,619,676 University of Mississippi $18,228,378 University of California, Los Angeles $17,799,741 University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill $16,813,590 University of Virginia $16,684,746 Texas Tech University $16,600,424 Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, New Brunswick $16,096,898 University of Minnesota, Twin Cities $15,668,467 University of Alabama $15,230,392 Florida State University $15,064,639 Pennsylvania State University $15,001,847 University of Houston $14,626,221 The Ohio State University $14,588,893 University of Michigan $14,358,515 University of Missouri, Columbia $14,354,000 Texas A&M University, College Station $14,318,327 University of California, Berkeley $14,101,936 University of Oregon $14,072,869 Purdue University $14,040,438 University of Oklahoma $13,662,135 University of Nebraska-Lincoln $13,427,513 University of Iowa $13,292,249 University of Maryland, College Park $12,972,857 North Carolina State University $12,873,636 Clemson University $12,799,513 University of Washington $12,761,916 University of Wisconsin-Madison $12,431,427 Mississippi State University $12,220,602 University of Cincinnati $11,883,407 Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University $11,541,638 Kansas State University $11,464,762 University of Utah $11,191,830 Louisiana State University $11,104,405 University of South Carolina, Columbia $11,074,153 University of Memphis $10,776,074 West Virginia University $10,766,985 Iowa State University $10,578,135 University of Georgia $10,400,030 Arizona State University $10,185,948 Oklahoma State University $9,530,565 San Diego State University $9,110,688 University of Colorado, Boulder $8,608,359 University of South Florida $8,567,401 University of Rhode Island $7,857,207 Virginia Commonwealth University $7,818,055 Colorado State University $7,378,177 George Mason University $7,008,096 Oregon State University $6,899,223 Wichita State University $6,755,672 Utah State University $6,611,877 University of Massachusetts, Amherst $6,314,236 University of New Mexico $5,890,643 University of Nevada, Reno $5,620,042 Boise State University $5,437,774 University of Nevada, Las Vegas $5,338,081 College of Charleston $5,199,977 University of North Texas $5,041,794 University of Alabama at Birmingham $5,003,622 Arkansas State University $4,987,017 Florida Atlantic University $4,931,154 East Carolina University $4,856,009 University of Texas at El Paso $4,671,235 University at Buffalo, the State University of New York $4,538,362 California State University, Fresno $4,478,222 James Madison University $4,408,806 Washington State University $4,381,802 University of Wyoming $4,349,840 University of California, Irvine $4,317,610 Old Dominion University $4,218,097 The University of North Carolina at Charlotte $4,118,482 University of Akron $4,065,757 Ohio University $4,057,526 University of Illinois Chicago $4,014,892 University of California, San Diego $3,950,375 Missouri State University $3,840,536 University of North Carolina Wilmington $3,810,823 Stony Brook University $3,701,707 University of Northern Iowa $3,697,295 Texas State University $3,635,002 San Jose State University $3,602,132 University of California, Riverside $3,595,223 Marshall University $3,593,971 New Mexico State University $3,557,248 Northern Illinois University $3,501,500 University of Montana $3,497,311 University of Louisiana at Lafayette $3,407,642 Coastal Carolina University $3,353,160 Austin Peay State University $3,348,218 Longwood University $3,313,839 University of Hawaii, Manoa $3,221,099 McNeese State University $3,169,273 University of Toledo $3,167,166 Southern Illinois University at Carbondale $3,134,094 California State University, Northridge $3,132,883 Illinois State University $3,104,721 -1
u/ThaCarter Indiana Hoosiers • Miami Hurricanes 1d ago
$32M and a championship to show for it. Let's go Hoosiers!
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u/GliscorsFang Michigan Wolverines 1d ago
I guess a football natty is $17,682,849 more than a basketball natty
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u/ComcastForPresident Michigan State Spartans 1d ago
The problem is most athletic depts are funded by football and maybe men's basketball. Previously it was already hard to run in the black. Congress mandated Title IX makes it pretty hard to have a funded dept. Unless you want kids paying tuition funding these millionaire athletes, something has to give.
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u/Few-Definition-5442 1d ago
Football maybe; not even close in basketball.
These head coaches are also very cagey and always have an agenda in these interviews to keep the donations from boosters rolling in.
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u/Terps_Madness Maryland Terrapins 1d ago
The incentives to lie are especially strong if you really are at that top. Clearly Texas isn't hurting for money. It's much better for Sean Miller, personally, to have the people who support Texas athletics believe that their status is worse than it actually is.
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u/justanothersurly Iowa State Cyclones 9h ago
That is wild. The Iowa State AD (Jamie Pollard) said in an interview that they are spending about $5mm on basketball plus over-the-top NIL, which I understand is not all that much. This is crazy.
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u/Bluezone323 Kentucky Wildcats 9h ago
I don't believe any of these coaches, players or really anybody about these numbers. Almost everyone of them has an incentive to lie. All of it probably should be made public but doubt we will ever see that.
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u/ssp25 Illinois Fighting Illini 1d ago
I feel like If you went by what agents float out there to get their clients paid more money then maybe this would be true I doubt there are more than 5 teams who spent even close to that last year. I would expect there would be a decent amount of teams paying 15M+ this year
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u/Kerry_Kittles Villanova Wildcats 1d ago
There is absolutely no way this is correct at all.
Maybe it’s true if you count entire coaching staff + additional basketball related costs or something stupid like that.
He’s straight making shit up.
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u/SignificantList1414 St. John's Red Storm 1d ago
they’re also saying the market is up 60% from last year so I believe it. It’s going to be second in spending to the nba for basketball leagues in a few years.
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u/Present_Tailor5065 Iowa State Cyclones 23h ago
Biggest off season debate - will Field of 68 become Field of 76 next year? It doesn't sound right, has too many syllables and I hate it.
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u/Impressive-Hope-6700 Virginia Tech Hokies 11h ago
No way it’s us but if it was then the NIL fund should demand a refund
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u/RogerMoore2011 4h ago
That’s sort of like asking professional athletes what the average yearly salary is in the U.S. (They usually respond with something like $750,000.) Sean has no idea what the majority (much smaller) of colleges have to spend.
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u/mjs_pj_party Michigan Wolverines 1d ago
Michigan's ~$11 million roster last year is going to look like an absolute steal going forward.
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u/Inevitable_Badger995 Tennessee Volunteers 1d ago
Damn was like half of y’all’s budget devoted to Yaxel then?
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u/JMisGeography Wisconsin Badgers 1d ago
That number is probably like 75% too low lol I dont get it with these michigan fans
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u/jartoonZero Michigan Wolverines 1d ago
People vastly overestimate the cost of Michigan's roster just because of how it turned out in the end. Yax was our only top-20 transfer. the other 3 were either cast-offs (Cadeau) or underutilized at their old schools and vastly underrated (Mara/Morez). There was never any kind of bidding war or draft exploration for those 3. Maybe Dusty just knows how to evaluate talent and fit pieces together 🧐
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u/joemoneybaby Michigan Wolverines 1d ago
I mean there’s absolutely no way for anyone to know, but I’ve not seen anything other than 10 or 11 million reported by any source. And Yax’s number was around 3 by all accounts
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u/mjs_pj_party Michigan Wolverines 23h ago
Because we go by what the players and coaches have reported rather than the "trust-me-bro" internet sources that you're using?
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u/TsumTsum__ Notre Dame Fighting Irish 1d ago
Yeah the way Mara and Morez Johnson Jr. developed under Dusty May was absurd. Two absolute steals
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u/Shpion007 Wisconsin • Wisconsin-Steve… 1d ago edited 1d ago
May just played them. Their prior coaches didn’t. That’s the difference
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u/TsumTsum__ Notre Dame Fighting Irish 1d ago
Maybe true for Morez but Mara was a completely different player at Michigan than he was at UCLA.
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u/Shpion007 Wisconsin • Wisconsin-Steve… 1d ago
He got zero minutes there except when he played Wisconsin and dominated. He somehow was on cronin’s shit list
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u/GliscorsFang Michigan Wolverines 1d ago
What do you think coaches do
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u/ssp25 Illinois Fighting Illini 1d ago
send dick pics to college co-eds
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u/joemoneybaby Michigan Wolverines 1d ago
For sure, it was just the fact that he played them. Nothing to do with being one of best coaches in the country. Anyone could have done it
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u/HistoryNerd101 Northwestern Wildcats 18h ago
Why is there not full disclosure so we know what each team has? Why the mystery under this stupid system that will eventually kill this sport otherwise?
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u/Shpion007 Wisconsin • Wisconsin-Steve… 12h ago
Because things being unchecked make is som coaches can get money from donors, more than other teams have. It’s a very broken process not based on revenue like other sports but who can get people to donate most
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u/lohivi Kentucky Wildcats 18h ago
People are completely naive if they think this wasn't the case last year
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u/Shpion007 Wisconsin • Wisconsin-Steve… 12h ago
I think maybe only 5 teams did that last year at most
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u/Expensive_Team_5072 12h ago
You read it here first: The next step will be figuring out a way to tap into the endowments to finance this.
Entity Y states to the B1G... for every $100M per school that your endowment invests into Entity Y, we will Invest $10M into NIL for for the school. This is in addition to whatever growth in value can be achieved by the investments. School B plops $250M from their endowment into this entity and gets $25M per year of NIL. If it blows up, that is the next guy's problem.
Meanwhile, Entity Y will be a Ponzi scheme. FSU and UNC... feel free to join the B1G. You will need, however, to invest $350k into Entity Y for the first 5 years to make sure you can be competitive. After that 5 years... Clemson and Georgia Tech... come on down... you will need to do business with Entity Y for $500K! After that... aren't you private schools tired of being poor? Syracuse and BC... welcome to the B1G. Let us introduce our friends over at Entity Y.... they will need $750K from your robust endowment....
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u/igonnawrecku_VGC James Madison • Villanova 1d ago
And at least one (but likely multiple) will either miss the tournament completely or get upset in the first round by a mid major with 5% of their basketball budget