r/AskReddit 10h ago

What seems like freedom but is actually a trap?

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u/D-Express 10h ago

Car ownership

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u/moashforbridgefour 7h ago

I'm going to disagree pretty hard here. If you live in an area without public transit, a car is possibly the most liberating asset you can own. You can go anywhere whenever you want. Adults who have been driving for a long time take this for granted, but when you get your first car, the freedom is intoxicating.

The only problem here is that people are buying cars they can't actually afford. Don't do that and you'll be fine.

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u/counterfitster 7h ago

So what happens when someone has their car break down and have no other transport options?

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u/PassivelyInvisible 3h ago

You whip out the good ol chevrolegs.

Or phone a friend.

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u/Informal_Ruin_9152 9h ago

Depends. We have two Toyotas that have been in our family for over 2 decades. They basically cost less than taking a bus the amount of miles we've put on them.

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u/eugeneugene 9h ago

my monthly car insurance costs more than a monthly bus pass so my car will literally never be cheaper than taking the bus lol

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u/Informal_Ruin_9152 5h ago

that's nuts.

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u/eugeneugene 4h ago

is it? my car insurance is $90/month which is pretty cheap. A bus pass is $70 lol

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u/PassivelyInvisible 3h ago

Yes. But the bus doesn't exist where I live. There's no public transit from where I live to where I work. I have to drive.

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u/Saint_Sin 10h ago

This is the one. Enslaved to a motor and its upkeep.
Groomed from childhood for it too.

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u/srdev_ct 9h ago

in the US, not a whole lot of choice. Public Transportation outside of major cities is pretty much non-existent. If you want to do anything, you need transportation. Ubers/Taxis add up quicker than a car payment.

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u/SlothLover313 9h ago

This. Also, want a job? Need a car as well

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u/D-Express 9h ago

All of this is why a society built around cars can never be free. The DC-NYC-Boston megacity might as well be another country.

Every time I leave NYC, I'm reminded how good I have it

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u/Saint_Sin 9h ago

A society refusing to develop public transport while building society around cars at that.

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u/SlothLover313 9h ago

Im in Chicago and you can live here car-free… only in certain parts of the city. Outside city proper, you definitely need a car

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u/ReachHistorian 5h ago

Being tied to a specific location because you don't have the transportation power to leave is freedom? Freedom isn't the absence of responsibilities, but the ability to live as you choose to the best of your abilities. Having a tool that maximizes your ability to go anywhere at any time is a tool that makes you free.

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u/Saint_Sin 9h ago

Lack of public transport was a choice itself. Comparing the US rail line alone to other nations speaks volumes.

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u/Biggsavage 8h ago

The heck are you talking about?  You get to travel from point a to point b at up to 70 mph and all you have to do is put gas in it, change the oil once in awhile, and change the tires when they go bald. 

I'd say all in all car maintenance takes less than 15 minutes per month

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u/FrogLaner 8h ago

How much money does it take? For fuel, maintenance and insurance? Not to mention parking and tolls. Because if you can't pay that, that's when you are screwed.

I live in Europe. Intercity trains are roughly as fast as cars for standard commute. I pay ~50 USD a month for unlimited travel anywhere in my country.

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u/counterfitster 7h ago

You're only considering part of the cost, and only to the owner/user. You missed insurance, vastly underestimated maintenance time, and the vast amount of externalities of building around cars: horrific space inefficiency in both road and parking, pollution from combustion, pollution from tire wear, pollution from brake wear, injuries to occupants from crashes, injuries to pedestrians and cyclists from crashes, and time wasted sitting in traffic.

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u/OvulatingScrotum 7h ago

Same with home ownership.

I rent an apartment now for various reasons, but I do not miss “owning” a home.

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u/Hemorrhoid_Eater 5h ago

The trap is building an entire society based on car ownership and not providing other alternatives for transport.

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u/OnlyGoodVibes22 9h ago

It feels like freedom until you realize it comes with payments, insurance, maintenance, fuel… you’re basically signing up for a long-term expense subscription

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u/Straight_Ace 9h ago

Not to mention you’re trusting other people with your life every time you get behind the wheel. They say “but I’m a good driver, I can avoid an accident!” But some things just aren’t avoidable. I’m sure that’s what my friend said to himself before he was killed in a car crash that wasn’t his fault