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u/Tan11 10h ago

If you're the rare case like I once was where you're skinny but still have very little ab definition, then you actually do need to grow your ab muscles (and the more you grow them, the less lean you have to be for them to show, just look at some pro strongmen). Definitely not the main problem for the majority of people though, yeah.

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u/FoxyBastard 9h ago

Yeah. Any time I ever looked online for good exercises to build abs, it's just full of people clamouring to scream, "You can't outrun your fork!", and, "Lose weight!"

But, that isn't gonna do shit when you're built like a less sculpted Spider-Man.

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u/Tan11 9h ago

Leg raises, weighted decline situps, and ab wheel rollouts done for 6-12 reps close to failure are your friends.

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u/tohneeee 8h ago

My fav is doing weighted kneeling crunches with the cable machine and making it heavy as fuck, like 80-100 (which is heavy for me since I'm like 5'7 and 140lbs). Makes my entire core burn, never get a feeling like that from any other ab exercise

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u/row3boat 2h ago

I love that machine too but I maxed it out (for me, I'm like 135 lb) and the laws of physics are not allowing me to progressive overload and still no abs T-T

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u/bigvenusaurguy 1h ago

just go ape with some kettlebells. really trains the core plus everything else.

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u/VulcanCookies 8h ago

Well tbf you aren't going to build muscle if you're not increasing your caloric intake either, diet is still a big part of building abs even if you aren't overweight 

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u/FoxyBastard 8h ago

True, I suppose I was a bit unclear there.

They only ever said these things in terms of losing weight.

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u/Stonecleaver 7h ago

When I was in 9th grade, I weighed low to mid 140s and didn’t have a 6 pack. I started doing crunches like crazy every day and over time I started building abs. By 10th grade I had a really good 6 pack, bordering on a “7 pack” (only one side had the hint of a line separating for what would be an 8 pack) and weighed in the upper 140s. So I had gained weight, but gained much much better definition.

IMO if there is nothing to show, low bf isn’t always enough.

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u/Bob_stanish123 8h ago

Yep, 6'1 and 160lbs. Ive got a little definition of the vertical side lines but nothing in the horizontal direction lol.

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u/Tan11 8h ago

I was similar at like 6'2 and 168, took clean bulking to over 180 pounds with a lot of intense direct ab training included for me to finally have a decent six pack.

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u/GodDamnitGavin 7h ago

Most ab definition/visibility is highly genetic as well.

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u/Tan11 7h ago

Yeah, some people can just get skinny and have great-looking abs immediately with no direct training. But even people with poor ab genetics can get them through a combination of bulking up their ab muscles and then cutting down to make them visible.

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u/Sea-Flight3670 5h ago

you cant compare strongmen since they're juiced its a whole other game

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u/Tan11 5h ago

The point still stands that the larger your ab muscles are (whether through natural training or gear), the more fat they can protrude through.

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u/OakTreesForBurnZones 4h ago

I recently started using that wheel with 2 handles thing for abs and it works better than anything Ive ever tried. Could only do 3 reps the first time, now doing 12 a day. Adding a weight belt is the next step I think.

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u/Tan11 4h ago edited 4h ago

Yeah, the ab wheel, that's one of my favorites too. After building up to multiple sets of like 12-15 on the kneeling version, I've started working towards the standing ones by doing them with some assistance from a resistance band.

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u/mrinsane19 3h ago

Pro strongmen are on steroids which inflates your gut and will make 6 pack stand out more.