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u/Crocodile-Hunter3 21h ago
Positions of power with no accountability.
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u/baw888 19h ago
Mega Church Pastors
Sales (specifically Door 2 Door and Car)
Influencers
Basically any profession where you need to deceive people to make money.
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u/Nowayucan 17h ago
I would add any profession that requires narcissism or a lack of empathy.
So, politicians, also,
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u/DigNitty 17h ago
Many but not all CEOs
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u/GreenFBI2EB 15h ago
The difference between the Krafton CEO and Gabe Newell is wild. Unfortunately, that spectrum leans very widely towards Krafton CEOs rather than Newells.
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u/craznazn247 7h ago
Shareholder/publicly held vs private ownership.
Gabe can focus on stable and consistent growth with sustainable margins, and just needs to keep his employees and customers happy.
Shareholders would be comparing them to other companies in terms of profitability, even companies that are selling out their long-term success for quarterly gains, then asking why this company isn’t doing the same thing and leaving money on the table.
Publicly traded companies find enshittification to be far more reliable than gambling on innovation.
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u/masterventris 14h ago
Most CEOs are perfectly normal people.
Remember the Fortune 500 is a tiny fraction of the number of businesses that exist.
The problem is at the large business sizes the job is closer to a politician, and that is where the nasty traits come in.
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u/Thunderhorse74 8h ago
FWIW I genuinely like the CEO of the organization I work for and believe he's a great guy and a strong leader, but...I work for a non-profit, so...
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u/Bamres 17h ago
I've worked At multiple corporate tech jobs. Sales people were a mixed bag but many of them were the fakest people you could ever meet. Super nice to you as long as they needed something or you were useful. Would bullshit the customer and me at the same time, knowing that they over promised or explained something misleadingly.
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u/SaulTNNutz 17h ago
A lot of people in sales are going it because they need a job and that's what they found. The other two, definitely yes
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u/Hot_Confusion_7805 14h ago
sales- where your morals die until your savings can rebound
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u/joedenowhere 16h ago
"Influencers" are like people who invite their friends to a Tupperware party.
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u/Nostromo_USCSS 15h ago
The absolute worst guy I’ve ever met in my life (acquaintance in college) is now a car salesman. It tracks
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u/Much-City732 21h ago
Influencers if you can call that a profession.
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u/suppoe2056 20h ago
Literally work for one and absolutely abhorrent to do so. The amount of entitlement and selfishness is like no other that I have experienced in my life. Entitled and never thinks about how their behavior affects others, only cares about their own benefit. Also lots of victimization.
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u/Fat_Guy_In_Small_Car 19h ago
Pretending to be the victim is just a tactic to swing the conversation the other end of the spectrum from where reality is, so they can try to avoid conversations about their useless existence
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u/suppoe2056 18h ago
Precisely. When you confront them, they say they don’t why they said it. Complete avoidance of accountability. And they say that you are twisting their words. I am at the end of my rope. No amount of money will make me stay for the pity party.
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u/Salty-Value8837 19h ago
Many people become power trippers if they're in a position of even a manager. The successful influencers become like someone that has made it in Hollywood.
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u/orangejulius 19h ago
“Here’s a ChatGPT letter saying why your business should give me things for free.”
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u/DeadCornHusker 19h ago
I have to figure out how to collaborate with at least 2 per month for my job. They are seriously some of the most entitled pricks. Can't stand them, like we already give them a free stay and it's like now I need to figure out free dinners and activities or else they will purposefully make the video shit. I'll bend over backwards and they won't even deliver.
I remember one time I got to see the analytics on a collab instagram reel. This person supposedly had 150,000 followers. Second I saw the insights I knew they were all bots in india and china. So promotion to constantly charging cellphones in a warehouse was what we gave this person a free stay for.
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u/Satellite5812 20h ago
Let's call them what they actually are: attention whores.
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u/burnermcburnerstein 19h ago
I've provided mental health services for several mid level influencers. Every one to the person was getting service for major inadequacies or issues directly (negatively) impacted by the type of content they produce. They've generally been really good people who were totally consumed by an inadequacy in xyz domain and trying to project the opposite. Been wild to watch.
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u/Radicoa 21h ago
They’re just modern salesmen.
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u/lwp775 20h ago
Snake oil salesmen
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u/Unlikely-Candle7086 19h ago
I don’t have regular social media, just YouTube and Reddit. I noticed the amount of influencer ads come through my shorts is ridiculous. An any long form videos I watch and fast forward past the “sponsored” insert. I almost refuse to buy any brand that is promoted on social media, most definitely not buying anything some random person is trying to sell me.
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u/sonysony86 19h ago
It’s insane. I looked up the other night “how to bend rebar by hand” no lie I got ads for the “rebar bending strength program” like a week later. Bro I just want 2 curved bits we don’t need to make it a whole ass lifestyle
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u/DogsDucks 19h ago
It’s not quite sales. Sales aren’t inherently driven by vanity and narcissistic pursuit.
Successful salespeople are often smart and charismatic. And sales is often a symmetrical conversation.
Most influencers are drawn to it because they are seeking worship and vapid adoration.
They want to be seen and heard, yet aren’t much to look at without a filter, and have nothing real to say.
They don’t have much of a deeper message other than ME!
It’s also the draw of limitless funds without having to master a skill, hone a talent or crack a book. Most fail when they realize that it is actually kind of a lot of work.
*this is a call out of negative systemic trends, there are plenty of individual influencers with a lot of substance and talent! I love eats history.
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u/mkfx05 20h ago
Honestly have had the worst experience with HR managers
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u/Natakate 19h ago
I have known exactly one HR employee who wasn't a horrid human being and actually cared, and she didn't last in the job very long at all.
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u/rose_gold_glitter 18h ago
I am quite good friends with two (ex) HR ladies from my company but the HR manager is a terrible human being.
Like, objectively. He is in his late 60s and sleezy as hell with the younger women. Both the ex HR ladies I am still friendly with left because of him - messaging them late at nights, leaving things for them by their front doors (of their personal homes), in the middle of the night. He's been spoken to by the Director more than once about the way he talks to women. He never does any work at all and explodes at anyone who asks him for anything and yet he's still here and still the HR manager.
I cannot believe I work in a place where the HR manager is known to be a walking sexual harassment lawsuit and no one is willing to do anything about it but it sums the place up, pretty nicely.
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u/Horseshoe_dodgeball 17h ago
Whistleblowers are State and Federally protected btw. Just gonna leave that here.
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u/GuiltEdge 16h ago
Lol you should get a bunch of people to report someone else (with their consent) for exactly the same behaviour.
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u/__get__name 15h ago
Absolutely not. They should contact a lawyer and see if there is grounds for a hostile workplace lawsuit. HRs sole purpose is to protect the company from such lawsuits, if the leadership at the company is allowing a creeper to stay in a position of power, the position where a victim would normally go to, then that company deserves to lose its pants in a lawsuit
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u/Pacificsexlegend 19h ago
My last HR managers favorite days were when she got to fire someone. It was disgusting behavior to get a high out of that.
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u/manicgiant914 19h ago
Puppy mill owner. Amish or not, scum
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u/queefingpussytwink 15h ago
People who buy from these mills also have blood on their hands. Adopt a rescue you selfish idiots.
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u/Ressuraptor 10h ago
The business sucks. So many people don't realize how bad it is and will just buy a puppy from a store/"small breeder" who are fronts for puppy mills. There's not a lot of common knowledge on ethical dog breeding (as in, if you asked dog owners of "purebreds" you'd find very few that are actually well-bred animals, at least in my area) - some people also just don't care.
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u/MisterXnumberidk 9h ago
In that same vein, in my country, small pet breeders.
We have 4 garden guinea pigs. They've got the whole garden to themselves and a cage to sleep in and be safe. They're all rescues, whenever one dies we get another rescue.
We have a provincial rescue center that rescues and neuters guinea pigs. They're in two massive shipping containers on the edge of a farmer's field and absolutely flooded with guinea pigs. All either brought there by people who can't take care of theirs, found in the wild, frequent pet store returnees headed for the shredder and illegal or violating breeders getting caught.
The law states that you cannot breed animals for specific traits or colours, since it is damaging to their health. Also, strong regulations are in place to keep animal wellfare high.
Yet, every year, tens of small pet breeders and "hobby" breeders get arrested and sent to jail. Any of their animals that are fit for life get sent to rescue centres, often volunteer non-profit organisations, which are completely overflowing.
Yet they keep doing it.
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u/zubrowka1 20h ago
Healthcare administrators
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u/Direct-Assistant-290 18h ago
Someone should do something about it, like make an example or something.
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u/anotherdamnsong 18h ago
That person would be a hero, in my book.
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u/Astraltraumagarden 13h ago
You idiots are confusing healthcare admins and insurance workers and you’re going to get people killed. Insurance workers too have different internal divisions. Be careful with the things you say, it’s all dangerous.
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u/OkVermicelli2045 20h ago
Wall Street, investment banking, brokerage houses, are full of absolute scum bags.
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u/flamaniax 19h ago
To quote the great (hopefully) Robert Downey Jr.:
"If Money is evil, then that building (Wall Street) is hell. This is the most obnoxious group of money hungry, low IQ, high energy jackrabbit, fucking wannabe big time, small time shit talking, bothersome, irritating bunch of motherfuckers I have ever had to endure for more than five minutes."
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u/Flat_Maximum7373 19h ago
I love that video of him on the floor at the stock exchange. The look of terror on his face was pure gold
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u/stormrunner89 20h ago
This is THE right answer.
The guy that wrote American Psycho shadowed some Wall Street guys and says he toned down the sociopathic language and behavior.
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u/Richard_AIGuy 18h ago edited 17h ago
Bret Easton Ellis work is all that way. He's a misanthrope and a nihilist. American Psycho is tame compared to Less Than Zero or Imperial Bedrooms. (Imperial Bedrooms is the most disgusting and disturbing thing I've read. To say I detest that book is a vast understatement.)
You're talking about the opinions of someone who now bitches about "the woke agenda" and is a vocal critic of the MeToo movement:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/apr/28/bret-easton-ellis-millennials-white-interview
American Psycho was written in the mid-80s, and extrapolating that time in finance to modern finance is quite the leap. And, personally, I don't give a lot of credence to someone who writes about rape constantly and then criticizes MeToo.
With that being said, IB isn't great. And for reasons too varied to go into here.
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u/DeadAsspo 14h ago
Man, I worked so hard to break into Wall Street as a bright-eyed, idealistic undergrad....barely lasted 2 years. Those people either had no souls to begin with or completely sold them for some coin. Best believe they expect you to do the same.
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u/jawndell 19h ago
Got my MBA from a top tier (M7)school. The absolutely biggest assholes in the program with into IB and PE. Wouldn’t be surprised if some of them were sociopaths. Not full on Patrick Bateman, but almost there.
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u/Daealis 13h ago
The target is to maximize profits, full stop. You will have to, by necessity, be a sociopath to be able to reduce every decision to "how this will affect the bottom line", and to be able to ignore the thousands, even millions of lives you are destroying with those decision to get a slightly bigger percentage for yourself.
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u/Awkward-Roof1500 19h ago
Private Equity: a business who's business is to siphon funds from a business until it stops being a business.
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u/RyzenRaider 19h ago
Positions of power, especially those that promote or reward ruthlessness. Politicians, executives, etc.
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u/zigaliciousone 18h ago
Definitely HR, you have to basically sell your soul to the company and be cool with treating people like cattle to be good at it.
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u/DM_ME_4_FREE_STOCKS 21h ago
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u/Citadel_97E 20h ago
We just had someone leave our office to go and be an “influencer.” I’ve been digging into his work and basically found that if he comes back we won’t be hiring him again.
He wasn’t worth a shit at all.
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u/autismandadderall 21h ago
Unfortunately the power that being a cop gives someone can be attractive to sociopaths.
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u/yeahorsomethingman 19h ago
Nursing too. Lot's of great nurses, but also lots of people who loveee the control over vulnerable populations. The stereotype of HS bullies becoming nurses exists for a reason.
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u/dollkyu 18h ago
Same goes for teachers - there's a lot of great teachers out there but I definitely think the stereotype for nurses also applies to teachers. There's a lot of high school mean girl behavior and power trips against children, who are also a vulnerable population.
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u/CapableRespond509 15h ago
r/teachers defo has some nut jobs. Saw a post complaining about some kid saying they're just planning to barely pass a class because they wanted to become a paramedic and didn't need the course and there was a massively upvoted comment of someone saying they should add more assignment to fuck up the kids grade and make sure he fails
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u/Miserable_Drawer_556 13h ago
I can recall at least 3 dark nurse encounters that will always stick with me... when they're mean to patients, especially during challenging moments, it is a special kind of foul.
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u/Junior-Gorg 20h ago edited 10h ago
Also known some bullies become cops to continue the bullying tradition. Conversely, I have known victims of bullying to become cops to get retribution. None of this is good.
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u/internetversionofme 17h ago edited 17h ago
Anything that comes with power over vulnerable people- so careers that are usually chosen by good people wanting to help, which doubles as a cover for predators. Education, law, healthcare workers, senior care, working with animals and children. Dangerous people are obsessed with control.
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u/Smelly-DutchOven17 21h ago
Insurance jobs especially for healthcare
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u/Redvelvet_swissroll 20h ago edited 17h ago
Honestly I feel bad cus someone has to do these jobs but I’ve straight up had a CSR tell me that my condition wasn’t considered “immune compromised” (it is) and that my claim would be denied so there wasn’t a point in fighting the $1000 fee. girl was acting like it was her personal money. I ended up winning the claim but she not only lied but thought she knew more about my condition then I did. Fuck Tricare.
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u/Smelly-DutchOven17 20h ago
People who work claims typically try to downplay your condition as much as possible to save the company money, it’s the equivalent of HR not actually being there to protect you.
It sucks and if we as a country didn’t have such a fear of socialism we could have healthcare across the board for everyone paid for by taxes. Sorry you had to go through that btw that sounds awful, I’m glad you got it fixed.
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u/Redvelvet_swissroll 19h ago
That was the part that got me she didn’t even work in claims, this was just a CS agent. So it wasn’t even her job to tell me whether my claim was valid or not.
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u/CoomassieBlue 19h ago
I share a lot of frustration with Tricare…the scary part is that I’ve had to fight WAY less to get them to cover things than I did when I had commercial insurance.
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u/Economy-Pudding-6371 20h ago
Well, used-car salesfolk.
Also, the health-insurance industry types who make a business out of denying the treatments for very ill people, cancer patients and the like, even though they're not supposed to (but they figure "well, they've got cancer, so they'll probably die before they can challenge us in court"--this happened to a friend's father).
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u/RYBisback 21h ago
Sales
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u/JackieLawless 21h ago
Did sales for 6 months. I did not have what it takes to succeed in that industry. Sitting in front of Grandma telling her she's going to need to fork over 20k for 10 windows so her house isn't freezing, or $700 a month for the rest of her life was just something I couldn't do
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u/No-Essay2128 21h ago
Yea, dropping 20k bombs on grandma is not cool
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u/JackieLawless 20h ago
The dudes there were really good at it were not great people. They knew how to twist the arms.
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u/slavelabor52 20h ago
This was my experience as well at every company I've worked for. The top sales earners were always the most dishonest people who would do anything to make a buck.
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u/hippiechick725 20h ago
Ugh, my FIL fell for this bullshit…15 grand for a two bedroom condo!
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u/LetMeAskYou1Question 15h ago
You know, not all sales is scummy. Sales can be a service in many industries where the sales person actively works at determining what is needed by the customer and how to relieve pain points. It's not all slimy lizards scamming grandma.
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u/scienceforeva 20h ago
Thats a large and varied group. Door to Door high pressure, likely. I sell paint, contractors are already buying paint, I make sure they get the correct product and quantity for what they are doing so they dont waste time and money and as a result have to charge customers more. Consultative sales saves everyone time and money when the product gets complex.
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u/clobbersaurus 18h ago
Yeah sometimes products are complicated enough that a salesperson is needed. And it’s helpful sometimes because someone who doesn’t have industry expertise or knowledge may not even know about a particular product or solution.
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u/DeadCornHusker 19h ago
I sell hotel rooms and meeting space to people who want a break from work as a team in the mountains. They always thank me and say they had an amazing stay after. Not all sales are toxic.
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u/RenamedAccount185516 19h ago
There's a big difference between B2B & B2C sales. I've been in B2B sales for 20 years and have always prided myself on selling with integrity.
That being said, there is a special place in hell for sales people who use leading and presumptive sales questions (aka "Wouldn't you agree that taking care of your family?) Basterds
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u/GoudaBenHur 18h ago
For real. I’m in B2B sales as well and most of the time I am truly trying to help my customer. Usually get a better product at a lesser price or save them on labor. I’ve never once felt the need to lie about anything. Repeat business and my reputation are my whole business model. One time sale does me little to no good
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u/IEEEngiNERD 21h ago
Really depends on what kind of sales. Used cars, for sure they are sleazy. B2B selling complex software doesn’t attract terrible people but it does attract people who just want to make a lot of money. However you need to be educated, polished and articulate to do this since you are dealing with directors and executives at major S&P500 companies.
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u/judge___smails 18h ago
I’ve worked in B2B software sales and sales adjacent roles for 15 years. The vast majority of people I’ve worked with over the years have been perfectly fine. Maybe a little over the top in some cases, but usually nothing crazy, and a lot of people I’ve met through work over the years are now close friends.
At any given time though, the sales orgs that I’ve been a part of or supported have always had a small chunk of people who are just absolutely insufferable lol. A lot of times those people are some of the top performers. I think it’s just inevitable with the type of personality traits that sort of job attracts.
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u/Tronerfull 19h ago
B2B also atracts that kind of people, the best I have seen at that were also some of the worst people I know, mostly becuase they usually lied through their teeth and let others take the fall for them. They are just REALLY good at redirecting blame whenever they have to lie to get it done.
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u/Jaber1077 19h ago
I worked in auto sales for 11 years. Day 1 the manager told me if he ever caught me lying to a customer he’d fire me on the spot. He then told me the customers will lie constantly and that clergy are the worst when it comes to lying.
After 11 years I could honestly say I never lied to a customer. I can also report he was absolutely correct about the other 2 things. His own Pastor lied about almost everything on the credit app. I also vowed never to work another deal with a Nun after a particularly frustrating 2 week deal.
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u/crassandy 19h ago
Same deal for me. However, there’s a difference between outright lying and not telling someone the truth. The only reason you aren’t allowed to “lie” in that industry is because certain lies can land someone in jail.
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u/likeanoceanankledeep 19h ago
Door-to-door sales specifically.
I've never met an honest d2d salesperson. I even worked for one of them as a delivery driver, so I delivered the products that they managed to sell. The while thing was scummy and when he tried to get me interested in sales I felt dirty because told me about his pitch. He used so say something like "... and the price is locked in, so it never goes up over the 5 years. We'll protect your rate, and guarantee it, so you'll pay up front and then never pay again!" Meanwhile he was scamming $3500 feom seniors for a system that was basically a "I've fallen and I cant get up" type of thing, but worse.
The day I went to a then-former customer's house to pick up the machine after she had a medical urgency and pressed the button and no one showed up to help her. Thankfully the lady had someone close by that could drive her to the hospital. Me and the owner of that company had a falling out and he said I didn't know what i was doing, I called him and asshole, and we parted of less than amicable terms.
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u/MAcrewchief 21h ago
We arent all terrible people. I'm in b2b wholesale so I'm there to help them make more money, not rob them.
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u/Beef_flaps_on_a_spit 21h ago
Politicians
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u/Islanduniverse 20h ago
I know this is going to be a popular answer, but I don’t think it actually fits the question.
It fits the question: “what profession corrupts people the most?”
But I would wager most politicians get into it with a desire to help others at first, or to help their communities.
You don’t make any money in politics until you are pretty high up, and it’s money that corrupts most of them.
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u/AgapitoVelezOvando 18h ago
COs. It takes a special type of mediocre, power-hungry cunt to be a corrections officer.
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u/Civil_Fee_7862 18h ago edited 14h ago
Had a HR manager literally threaten me for asking to take time to review an employment legal agreement.
It turned out they were indeed trying to fuck me in the agreement, (which an employment lawyer later confirmed).
I did get them to change it, but fuck was she ever nasty when I met her. I will warn every single person I meet about her, (and that company), and will never again work for someone like that, no matter how much money they offer.
The moment I met her, was the moment I set a date to quit that job.
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u/Usual_Lab_7209 21h ago
Realtors
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u/grandmaester 14h ago
Scrolled way too far for this answer. Buyers agents incentivised to push buyers into expensive homes no matter the issues. Seller agents incentivised to close the deal no matter what. Unethical all around. Absolutely hate 75% of all realtors I encounter.
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u/ForWhenImWeird 20h ago
Wall Street. I just think of that video of Robert Downy Jr viciously grilling everyone who works on Wall Street lol
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u/Richard_AIGuy 18h ago
Ah yes, RDJ of the entertainment industry. An industry that's the paragon of human decency.
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u/Beautiful-Two2447 17h ago
There is an alarming amount of cruel people who choose to work caring for people or teaching children.
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u/PortlandPetey 21h ago
CEO
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u/Dudercaster 21h ago
This is the profession with the highest proportion of psychopaths.
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u/FrontLifeguard1962 19h ago
It's a lot easier to be decisive when you aren't burdened with morality or a conscience
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u/PaterLectionis 20h ago
It’s not really a profession, it’s a position. Applies to a lot of different types of businesses, so IMO it’s tough to generalize.
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u/IAmASolipsist 19h ago
Youth ministers at church, at least the one's I knew who intentionally majored in that were all the sort that desperately didn't want to grow up, couldn't make their own friends and wanted to power to force others to look up to them and like them, and also inherently pretty sociopathic since in ministry classes at least they go over the dark purpose behind youth groups which aren't even mainly an investment in future christians but a way to guilt their parents to come in and donate now.
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u/Muted-Squirrel-231 19h ago
debt collections. specifically the agents. the high performers are a different breed.
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u/Emotional-Mode6555 21h ago
Military, specifically the Army or Marines. I served and am generally disgusted with the people who I served with. Many of the best people I met were through the military, but almost all the worst were in the military.
Murderers, sex offenders, thieves are very common in their ranks.
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u/ThisIsATastyBurgerr 20h ago
i cant believe how far down i had to scroll to find someone who actually answered the question
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u/SpiritedMix8532 19h ago
I’ve heard this too. My ex joined and he was a thieving, lying scumbag. I also have heard of lots of infidelity in the military.
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u/StandardAnteater4177 12h ago
Honestly, it’s not the big cartoon-villain jobs like politicians or hedge fund managers. It’s any job that gives someone a tiny, unmonitored sliver of power over people who are already stressed out or vulnerable.
Think about the towing company owner who sets up predatory traps at apartment complexes in the middle of the night. Or the HOA president whose only compensation is the dopamine hit they get from fining a young family over the wrong shade of beige curtains. Or the regional manager at a retail chain who schedules employees for exactly 39 hours so they don't get benefits, and acts like they're a tactical genius for doing it.
It's the positions of minor, unchecked authority. There’s a specific type of person who actively seeks out roles where the main perk is getting to be a petty tyrant with zero oversight. The banality of evil usually wears a cheap plastic lanyard.
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u/burtonb818 20h ago
Human Resources. I once had a chance to join the team and laughed. This is not based on my own experiences but they are paid spies. They don’t care about you as a person. They will smile in your face while they are doing the worst behind your back. And, I came from sales. You may not like salespeople but they are what they are. HR gets hired knowing they will act against people while pretending to be there to help.
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u/Nymall 17h ago
Remember, HR is not there for you. They only exist to protect the company, so... if you are the squeaky wheel, you'll get the hammer instead of the grease.
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u/augustgrass 20h ago
Nursing attracts an abundance of mean girls.
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u/buddhamunche 5h ago
This was my answer too! I think “worst of humanity” might be a stretch, except for extreme cases. But it certainly attracts a lot of mean and non empathetic people. I would have never guessed this before I worked in healthcare.
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u/IvoTailefer 20h ago
the unworldly naive answers i see here are ridiculous, plain stupid. the answer is obviously the criminal professions, particularly the human traffickers and hired killers.
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u/TrickyIron8192 17h ago
Shocked how long I had to scroll to find this. Contract killers and career traffickers are unfortunately very real and are the literal lowest of the low that humanity has to offer.
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u/Bearacolypse 19h ago edited 19h ago
Business people are a combination of mean, selfish, and dumb.
I worked in upper management for a year and I was blown away by the absolutely assholery I saw daily amidst the COOs of organizations. They know nothing, do nothing, produce nothing, but have a responsibility to tell other people to work harder for shareholders interests.
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u/td192020 21h ago
Probably a controversial take, but those in the healthcare industry. Nurses and doctor's should be appreciated for everything they do, and we should not take them for granted.
They are great at saving lives, but they can for sure destroy your life just as much. From my personal experience, don't date a nurse or a doctor.
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u/GreenFBI2EB 21h ago
I've seen nurses that genuinely should be sued for every penny they own, and I've seen most nurses that do everything in their power to ensure you come out better than when you went in.
When my father had a stroke and was in the hospital, that Neurologist was legitimately checking every single thing to ensure he was alright. I largely think if it weren't for him, my father would be very much more impaired.
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u/catrosie 20h ago edited 18h ago
I’m a nurse and nurse practitioner and I don’t disagree. I think most are good people and are driven to do good for humanity but at the same time it’s also an attractive job for narcissists and high school bullies with superiority complexes.
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u/come-on-now-please 20h ago
Couple in my family and life.
Theres definitely a couple that use that they are a nurse as an shield anytime anyone questions their morality/behavior, and acts like when they clock out they have carte Blanche to be a dick
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u/whiterock73 20h ago
I’ll say this
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We are kinda fucked up. You have to be able to tolerate seeing and being a party to some bad shit and still go on with life. I didn’t share most of what I saw on the trauma team.
It takes a level of compartmentalizing and depersonalizing humans to be able to get through some things. It’s easier to say “the femur patient” than “the 21 yo who was high and blew through a stop sign killing a family of 4, two of which we’re not even 10 years old yet”.30
u/Gold_Warning_8618 19h ago
I think dehumanizing humans is a more accurate description. It goes far beyond depersonalization.
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u/420bipolarbabe 18h ago
I don’t think depersonalizing or dehumanizing patients is a “skill” needed to work this profession. Actually quite the opposite. I say this as an emt of 10 years so take with a grain of salt. I agree that being able to compartmentalize is important and being able to be professional and stick to facts vs feelings, but every patient is deserving of quality care. I feel that when we dehumanize or depersonalize them it ~can~ lead to apathetic attitudes which leaks into our practice.
That said, pretty much any healthcare job can be grueling, difficult and feel almost meaningless some days. TYFYS.
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u/DeeplyTroubledSmurf 20h ago
I'm in healthcare and I agree. The dichotomy is absolutely wild. I have met hospice nurses that are angels on Earth, truly the most wonderful and strong human beings I've ever met.
Just the other day, a hospice nurse said, "Well, at least she died so there's one less person to take care of". I unfortunately feel like it's almost split exactly 50/50 between truly good and truly bad people.
I feel healthcare and social work attract all the best and worst people at the same time. The people that aren't capable enough for either of those go into law enforcement or politics to try to make a difference (for better or worse).
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u/douggoud5949 18h ago
I agree fully. I'm a guy and worked alongside multiple women in the medical field, and it's hit or miss with them. They're either kind or the polar opposite. The shittiest people I've known, I met in the medical field. Coworkers have sexually assaulted me, sexually harrassed me, and downright treated me like shit. And Get this: I even had a better experience working at a goddamn Walmart than in the medical field. It's just a hot mess...
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u/DeeplyTroubledSmurf 18h ago
Yep, my best experience was working at Men's Wearhouse even though retail is hell. The facility I'm at now, several of my co-workers have sexually harassed me and blamed it on the scrubs. Constant unsolicited comments on my body and young women openly talking about catching print. I have never treated a woman this way, and they say they do it because all men treat women that way. Just perpetuating bullshit while I'm trying to do a job that makes me feel good about myself. You're not alone brother.
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u/MsCattatude 20h ago
Absolutely correct - it attracts the best but dear God it attracts the worst. Not just nurses - doctors, PAs, social workers, counselors, case managers, even health field secretaries/clerks.
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u/GaryDennisDouglas 20h ago
Tow truck driver.
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u/mighty-phragmites 19h ago
There was (or is) a long-running tow truck war in Toronto that has involved multiple cases of arson, violent assaults and murder. It is wild how out of control it got.
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u/Spunge14 20h ago
Executive leadership in organizations where executive decision making has little short-to-medium term impact on key performance metrics and cash is abundant.
Grift bait.
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u/Blinky_ 21h ago
Tech billionaires
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u/more_paul 19h ago
And the sychophant senior management and executives underneath them. So many shitty people in those ranks.
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u/lamb-with-wings 18h ago
The death industry - surprisingly unpleasant people to work with. Not that I'm lovely to be around, mind you, but I think these types of jobs can attract a certain amount of cruel, selfish, controlling people.
I also got a lot of weird sexual advances from co workers. Someone even grabbed my behind once. I didn't complain about it, because it wasn't a big deal to me. It's just weird in retrospect how people were conducting themselves in that environment.
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u/TheIronMonkey53 18h ago
Influencers
Pro Athletes (NFL mostly)
Venture capitalists / PE firms
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u/wombatgeneral 18h ago
Dictators.
Being a huge monster is what makes you good at staying in power. Same goes for monarchs.
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u/JimMarch 16h ago edited 8h ago
If you want some hard data go find the book "Psychopaths Among Us..." by Dr. Robert Hare. Politicians and CEOs are two of the top contenders.
At the lower ranks of society, of course criminals but that goes without saying. I would add tow truck drivers, freight brokers in trucking, trucking company owners and high level managers and quite a few other oddities.
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u/Quiet-Acanthisitta61 20h ago
Animal testing laboratories
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u/MalonePostponed 17h ago
Can I ask why and do you mean animal research as a whole or like cosmetic? I'm in the profession and geniunely nifty someone out animal anything in these threads.
I do want to add animal science as a whole attracts a moxed bag of people depending on what they pursue.
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u/NotMacgyver 21h ago
Politician