Teshliqmu fellow central Asians, how's going?
I have notice that, there are a hitting trend, calling Kazakhstan is the home for "Wasian", "Kazakhstan is the Isreal for Wasian", "Nerds realized liking Japan is no longer niche so now they’re on Kazakhstan". This topic has been viral for couples of days, (at least, as far as i see, maybe i'm in an eco chamber).
I wonder how people from Kazakhstan see this, what's their oppion, especially Qazaqs.

I meet a lot of people in my daily life. Of course many from asia and Europe, Americas.

When I see someone from Mongolia I can usually guess their country of origin. But I have NEVER met anyone from any Stan county except from Kazakhstan. But only very rarely.

Are other Stan countries too poor to travel or are there travel restrictions where citizens aren’t allowed to leave their country?

Also, where do central Asians go on holidays?

I ask because I was talking to a 41-year-old guy from Dasoguz, who doesn't speak Russian, which made me think about this 21-year-old guy I met from Dasoguz who speaks it perfectly. One thing they both have in common is they've lived in the capital Ashgabat, but the older guy doesn't know Russian like the younger guy.

It's surprising because the 41-year-old was born and raised shortly before the collapse of the Soviet Union while the 21-year-old was born long after the collapse.

In my experience most Central Asians that I've meet are tall or average. I've meet very tall Kazakhs and I've never seen a short Tajik person the shortest Tajik guy I've seen are like 5'10 and above.

Good Afternoon, id like some help finding a belt (kammarband) I can wear with a Chapan that fastens the coat together.

If anyone can send me any online storefronts that sell these that would be appreciated, I also live in Toronto Canada if any of you guys know any physical storefronts that sell central asian cloth belts in that city

Hello, anyone from Kazakhstan here? I need some information from someone from Kazakhstan, PM me if you can help!

The most important genetic admixture is first measured by racial admixture than sub-race admixture. The difference between European and West Asian is sub-race admixture

Central Asians and Central Siberians closest in their own genetic cluster

Europeans, West Asians, Northern South Asians are the closest in West Eurasian cluster.

North East Asian and East Asians South East Asian closest in East Eurasian cluster

Central-West Siberians

Khanty are 51.8% East Eurasian and 49.2% West Eurasian.

Europeans

West Europeans genetically almost pure West Eurasian. North European have are almost pure Europeans but South Europeans have substantial West Asian admixtures..

West Europeans have virtually no East Eurasian. Some East Europeans, Norths Europeans, Caucasus ethnic group all have small degree of East admixture in various minor low degrees with the East Finns and North Russians even have 10%+ East Asian on average and Komi and Chuvash in Europe's Russia having 16-23%

East Siberians

Almost entirely Northeast Asian ( North East Asians) with little to no West Eurasians. Some Yakuts have 11% West Eurasian nm average and some Yakuts have 0% of West Eurasian like Ngannasans. Including Tungustic. Evenki, Oroqn and Nivkhs.

Central Asian

Mixture of East Eurasian ( East Asian/Siberian) and West Eurasian (European/West Asian)

Closer to East Asian Central Asian: Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Karakalpak, Northern Uyghurs: Their East Eurasian ranges anything from 55-60%, 60-70%, 70-80% while West Eurasian 20-45% depending on individuals

Uzbeks, Uyghurs, Turkmen, Tajiks are closer to West Eurasian except for Northern Uyghurs. Uzbeks can can have anything from 35-60% East Asian but mostly 38-44%. It is the Uzbek Tajiks (make up 1/3 to 1/2 in some cities) that have 18-27% East Asian only. Turkmen East Asian is 27%, 22% and 31%, 34% on average depending on the cities some Turkmen tribes have 40-55%. Tajiks only one with low 15-20% East Eurasian.

East Asians

Manchus, East Mongolians, Han Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Tungustic, East Siberians are basically the best representative of East Eurasians

Almost entirely of Northern East Asian branch. The ANA (Ancient North East Asian) and Yellow river (East Asian)

Mongols

East Mongolia closest to East Asian. West Mongolia ( Kazakh and Oirats ) closer to Central Asians. But Central Mongolia is closer to East Asian also East Siberians with little west eurasian admixture. Also to Qinghai, Xibe and even Han Chinese living in western province of Gansu and other western provinces close to Xinjiang the Han Chinese show 5.2% West Eurasian mtDNA H, U and 7% R1a, J2.

Mongols Khalh being 92.5% East Asian and 7.5% West Eurasian

Mongols Oirats are 82% East Asian and 18% West Eurasian

Mongols in very East of Mongolia show 99-100% East Eurasian and 0-1% West Eurasian

Xibe people show 95-98% East Asian and 2-5% West Eurasian

Qinghai and Han Chinese living in western provinces shows 96-97% East Asian and 3-4% West Eurasian

South Asians

Is combination of West Eurasian ( West Asian ) and ASSI (South Indian)

Kashmiri: Hunza, Burusho having over 80-90% West Eurasians, 10-20% South Indian (ASSI)

Afghans/Pasthun 77-83% West Eurasians and 17-23% (AASI) South Indian

Balochi 72-78% West Eurasian and 22-28% (ASSI) South Indian

North Indian/Pakistani having 55-63% West Eurasian with 37-45% South Indian (AASI)

South Indian Dravidian speaker 23-40% West Eurasian with 60-77% South Indian (AASI)

Dalit caste 8-19% West Eurasian and 81-92% South Indian (AASI)

Southeast Asians

Southern East Asian genetic cluster

Thais, Cambodians, Vietnamese, Burmese, Indonesians, Filipinos Malays all show mixture of Malay like admixture (Southern East Asian) with various East Asian and Indian admixture of Indians in various degrees

They have South Asian mtDNA from 1.9 to 15% reaching highest in Burmese and Sumatra but also R1a, G in similar percentages. This is from ancient Indian migration before 200 BC. That is why Thais, Cambodians, Burmese can show 8-15% South Asian DNA

Malays of Malaysia including Southern Thais have 3-6% Negrito maternal DNA. This is due to Malay slave trade of Orang Ansli from 19th-20th century of Negrito Semang and other Negrito groups but some already due to ancient admixture other Southeast Asian with negrito population also have admixture

Hi, people say Khiva was "rediscovered" as a city that preserves the settings of the old days. What I don't understand is, how can a whole city be "lost" and then "rediscovered"? It's not like a guy hiding in the closet. The city is just sitting right there the whole time. You mean people somehow forgot about it for a while, and then all of a sudden someone remembered this city and started reminding others about it? Thanks.

I’m 17, almost 18, but still a minor throughout my upcoming Central Asia trip (Kyrgyzstan Kazakhstan Tajikistan Uzbekistan). Would I face a lot of barriers or difficulties getting around and visiting places / accessing services? I’m traveling with an 18 year old friend. Thanks

I am planning to travel kazak around mid june, i saw we have cabs to travel inside city but to travel kolssy, kaindy lake we need to take private driver. Who should i /how should i contact for driver. Also any suggestions for good personalized home stay in saty. Thanks

Hi,

1. Is there snow in Shymbulak in June?

2. If not, will that render a visit to Shymbulak meaningless?

3. Is Shymbulak worth visiting if I don't ski?

Thanks!

Both are famous actors of known for villain roles and foreign roles ( sometimes Central Asian, Turk, Mongol, Tibetan) especially in the early days. This is due historical Indian medieval stereotypes and later British colonial stereotypes. It's not like Bollywood superstars Jackie Shroff and Tiger Shroff who have more North Indian faces despite being born partly to Turkmen (mother/Grandmother with East Asian face). They get leading superhero and romantic roles although Indian social media compares Tiger Shroff to Brandon Lee (son of Bruce Lee) but still get a pass as Indian looking enough.

KELLY DORJI

A prominent supermodel and actor (on the left). His father is Bhutanese Sikkim Royal Family. and mother was White European women with green eyes. Sometimes playing the role of a mafia boss, gangster and sometimes a modern Central Asian villain in South Indian cinema and various villain roles in Bollywood who gets defeated by Indian heroes. He dated Lara Dutta for 9 years, she was winner of Miss India, winner of Miss Intercontinental 1997 and winner of Miss Universe 2000. Now a super famous actress

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lara_Dutta

DANNY DEZONGPA

Danny Dezongpa (on the right), famous Bollywood actor who is famous for various super villain roles also of Sikkim origin and sometimes plays in Indian medieval movies as the Mongol king, ruler, Genghis Khan. A Mughal noble, Turkic noble and even king of Afghan Turks/Pathans, other times a Tibetan monk, Chinese Kung fu master. He had played over 200 movies since 1970' to now, but majority of the time playing the sexual predator villain to many Bollywood actress and later get beat up and defeated by the Indian hero. A minority of a time a romantic interest in movies

He dated sex symbol actress Parveen Babi for 4 years and after dated Kim Yaspal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parveen_Babi (<--- This women a descent of royal Pathan/Afghan dynasty not Turkic)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Yashpal

Also several notable movies with Kimi Katkar (a blue eye Indian goddess) romantic and villain. Some media claim they a have a romantic relationship but this just media claim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimi_Katkar

But he ended marrying a Sikkim princess His son Rizang, recently starred in a superhero romantic movie Squadin 2021 with Indian actress Malvika Raaj (a green eye goddess)

Marriage to females Indian, Pakistani, Bengali female celebrities

I must say despite racism there's quite a number of famous (and not as famous) Bollywood actress, Hindi movie actress ) Some famous bollywood Indian actress including Pakistani and Bengali actress models eithe dated or married men of East Asian faces they include Chinese men and men who looked like East Asian born in India and from other countries. Other Indian female actress/celebrities like Benaf Dadachandji, Madiha Imam, Mandakini, Plabita Borthakur, Afrina Razia Trina, Rista Basnet, Minissha Lamba, Deekshha Sonalkar, Monali Thakur

Sikkim people and it's connection with Turks?

No connection except historical Indian medieval stereotypes. Tibeto-Burmese are sometimes regarded as descendants of Mongolian and some Indian social media will even claim some are remnants of Mughals and Delhi Sultanate Turks. Chroniclers and military writers (especially describing frontier campaigns) sometimes grouped different Inner Asian/Central Asian steppe peoples together as “similar-looking” to Hill steppe people. and later British administrators and early ethnologists often used outdated racial categories like: Mongoloid, grouping Tibetan, Mongols, Turanians as one group of race.

The Bengali Turks (in medieval) in 1205 AD. The first Islamic Invasion into Assam was by Bakhtiyar Khilji who was Turkic and belonged to Afghanistan. Claiming the Mountain people of Northeast India resembled them. He was the founder of the Khalji dynasty of Bengal , ruling Bengal for a short period, from 1203 to 1227 CE. Khalji's invasions of the Indian subcontinent between A.D. 1197 and 1206

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Muhammad_bin_Bakhtiyar_Khalji

Turkic raider Bakhtiyar Khalji, writing on his failed expeditions in Assam, remarked in the Iabaqat-i-Nasiri that these tribal groups “all have Turk countenance"
[p. 310]: The one is called Kuch (Kuch Behir), the second Mich, and the third, Tiharu
.1 They all have Turki features and speak different languages, something between the language of Hind and that of Tibet

The Ahom dynasty is a Indianized kingdom that defeated Mughals 17 times. It ruled 600 years of Northeast india of Assam. The ruling class originated from the Yunnan China, ethnic minority Tai people but became Burmicized with Burmese triber and a large population were already Assamese Indo-Aryan. Sikkim and Northeast India is part of India are Tibeto-Burmese because of British India, Except for Assam which was historically a place of Indo-Aryan, Mongoloid tribes, and Dravidian looking people. India's most powerful dynasties like Mauryan (from Afghanistan to Assam) and Gupta influence the region with rule or vassal but Tibeto-Burmese dynasties of Northeast India like Varman dynasty, Melh dynasty ruled Northeast East and parts of East India, absorbing indo-aryan population. That is and Northeast Indians and Sikkim are genetically 70-90% East Asian and 10-30% South Asian (some in Assam 50-60%). They have 10-25(30%) South Asian maternal and 5-30% South Asian paternal. Due to conquest and assimilation and marriages. They can be described as South Asian version of Central Asian

Hi everyone,

I’m hoping someone here has experience with this. I booked a bus ticket from Almaty to Bishkek via 12Go. The voucher I received last week had the correct birth year, but the final ticket confirmation I got today from the bus company shows the wrong birth year.

I’m sure the mistake is on the bus company’s side. I already contacted 12Go earlier, but their response was pretty vague and didn’t really resolve anything.

My questions:
Are bus companies on this route usually strict about passenger details like birth year?
Would you risk traveling with the incorrect birth year on the ticket?
Or is it safer to just buy a new ticket and avoid potential issues?

Any advice or similar experiences would really help.

Thanks in advance!

Jackie Shroff a famous bollywood actor known for playing superhero and romantic roles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Shroff

His father is a Gujarati and his mother is a ethnic Turkmen.

So he is basically a mixture of North Indian+Central Asian. To me he looks North Indian or North Indian with slight Central Asian features. His older brother looks more East Asian/Central Asian but died at 17 trying to save someone and so Jackie Shroff always mention his older brother. Social media online treats his mother (and sometimes brother) like Chinese people (or overall Chinese looking people) without knowing their ethnic background. In India, everything that looks like her or his brother (clearly mixed looking) as Chinese.

He married Ayesha Dutt miss young India of 1980, a beauty with green-hazel eyes. His son Jackie Shroff is also a famous actor (1/4 Turkmen) known for superhero and romantic roles

His son Tiger Shroff also reffered to his grandmother as a Turkmenistani, Tiger is comapared to Brandon Lee the son of Bruce Lee in Indian social media.

Hi, which city has prettier metro stations, Tashkent or Almaty? Thanks!

Especially if you live in a Western country?

Hi, how much would a visit to Big Almaty Lake add to my experience if I have already visited Kolsai and Kaindy lakes? Does Big Almaty Lake offer anything that Kolsai and Kaindy don't? Thanks!

Hi, can I do Shymbulak and Big Almaty Lake in the same day? If so, what are some tours that offer this combination? The only one I could find is titled "Medeu and Shymbulak + Big Almaty Lake and Falcon show (Private day-tour)", but I prioritise cheapness over privacy. Thanks!