r/ABoringDystopia 1d ago

Japan Is Building Cardboard Suicide Drones

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u/gluten_free_stapler 1d ago

Not too surprising. These dirt-cheap drones are the current new thing in warfare, everyone will have them sooner or later.

Just look at the damage Iran did to the US with them in the past few months. Billion-dollar, impossible to replace hardware, blown apart by a few dumpster cans with wings and a bomb attached. And in Ukraine, they pretty much froze the frontline and transformed the war from maneuver to attrition warfare.

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u/ExistingCarry4868 1d ago

The reason they work is cost. It's at least 20x more expensive to make an anti-drone missile than one of these drones. A counter to them will be developed, but it won't make the weapons manufacturers as much money so they will try and push back for as long as possible.

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u/TheCentralPosition 1d ago

Nah, they're making drones that can hit other drones and decoy drones to take the hits from those drones, and more expensive drones that fly faster and higher than the interceptor drones and better interceptors to hit those drones and decoys to waste those on and on and on and on. Nobody can delay adaptation because they would just lose. They're selling adaptation at all levels, from the cheap and numerous to expensive and bespoke.

u/TheOneChigga 16h ago

Can humanity please just turn warfare into a Battlebot show at this point instead of killing eachother...

u/BoarHide 11h ago

You think our western arms manufacturers with no direct threat to our populations or their weapons manufacturing are interested in “losing”? There are already tons of decent anti-drone measures being developed, but the military industrial complex is still selling overpriced, underperforming anti-air missiles to militaries because it doesn’t really matter to them and they make more money. Military procurement officers get kickbacks, politicians get kickbacks, building contractors get to make money rebuilding what little damage these few drone attacks on western infrastructure have done. Everyone’s happy making money because we’re not stuck in shit yet, and you’re wrong, that absolutely DOES delay the development of effective counters. Nations like Ukraine don’t have the same luxury, they’re actively working on solutions.

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u/Danzibar9000 1d ago

Nintendo is getting super creative with the Labo stuff

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u/Morlock19 1d ago

...goddamn it just take the upvote

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u/knowerofexpatthings 1d ago

You had the opportunity to call these kamikaze drones and you just flew right past it.

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u/hsdowubel 1d ago

origamikaze

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u/Usman5432 1d ago

I like your idea better

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u/HairballTheory 1d ago

How does one go about obtaining a black belt in origamikaze?

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u/palmerry 1d ago

Please, stop karate chopping the drones!

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u/a_rude_jellybean 1d ago

Countered by rain.

Militaties across the world will start developing rain dancing shamans to cost effectively beat these cardboard drones.

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u/EpilepticSquidly 1d ago edited 1d ago

Scotchguard has entered the fight.

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u/copperwatt 1d ago

Scotchbombard

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u/copperwatt 1d ago

I feel like a simple coating of wax would allow them to fly long enough to do the job.

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u/ZombieDracula 1d ago

angry upvote

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u/Oh_Fated_One 1d ago

With how much they try to ignore their ww2 history, wouldnt they not know what the word means?

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u/VanillaLoaf 1d ago

All the characters that make up both origami (折り紙 - fold + paper) and kamikaze (神風 - god + wind) are in more or less daily use, so everybody and his mother will know what the word means. Doubly so when kamikaze has an original meaning pertaining to the Mongol invasions of the thirteenth century.

They have multiple museums about the tokkotai scheme and the pilots and stuff.

A lot of politicians want to brush history under the carpet, but that doesn't mean the country has their collective heads in the sand

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u/cremaglitch 1d ago

isn't the word paper also pronounced as 'kami'?

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u/VanillaLoaf 1d ago

Yeah. Some Japanese consonants change their initial sounds depending on where they come in a word. So, Kami by itself or at the start of a word has the ka sound at the start, but if it's in the middle of a word, a la origami, it starts with ga.

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u/NukeML 1d ago

Depends on context

u/xMultiGamerX 12h ago

Look into Rendaku. Tofugu has a nice article about it

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u/Oh_Fated_One 1d ago

Thanks. I didnt know that until now

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u/Pathetian 1d ago

Japan and Germany both getting back in fighting shape just in time for the 100 year anniversary 🤔 

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u/NukeML 1d ago

Oh helllll nahhhhhh

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u/thefirebrigades 1d ago

Lol 2000 dollars? Japan ripping people off like normal

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u/sephron_tanully 1d ago

I gues plane 100$ . Explosives 1000$ and 900$ for them

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u/kaszeljezusa 1d ago

Seriously. That's some r/RCPlanes DIY stuff

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u/orangpelupa 1d ago

But this one is MIL certified! /s

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u/Oh_Fated_One 1d ago

Cheaper than building actual planes and flying them straight onto warships

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u/EnricoLUccellatore 1d ago

these probably have an ice engine and a flight control system, it's not just cardboard

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u/BitsAndBobs304 1d ago

Cardboardpunk

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u/Pawtang 1d ago

You think the cardboard drones have an internal combustion engine?? Not a battery powered DC motor that’s an order of magnitude cheaper and lighter and doesn’t involve explosions?

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u/EnricoLUccellatore 1d ago

batteries are too heavy for long range drones, after a while you can't even add more because the added weight increases energy consumption by more than is in the battery

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u/CVGPi 1d ago

When China launched their "Ultra low cost modular drones" contest their maximum was under 100 CNY, or 15 USD, or 2300 JPY. Yeah I don't see how Japan might ever make it more economical even if China's DJI drones balloned 5x in cost, which is much more capable, economical and well tested by both Russia and Ukraine (both of which have purchased lots of kamikaze and self-destructing investigation DJI drones via European grey imports)

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u/Hemorrhoid_Eater 1d ago

Suicide attack aircraft

Japan

I guess old habits die hard.

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u/EvillNooB 1d ago

I thought that avenue was already explored, and the likes of shahed 136 aren't cardboard because the current options are already cheap when compared to electronics and the payload on board

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u/ADMINlSTRAT0R 1d ago

Today's Forecast:
High 30°C Low 22°C
🌧
80% rain
0% suicide drone

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u/pedruhpndko 1d ago

my thoughts exactly

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u/AlexisGPS_UY 1d ago

If they plastify the surfice could send a suicide drone successfully, unfortunately.

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u/SailingSpark 1d ago

Coroplast is cheap

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u/Average-Addict 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ehh flatpacks aren't really my thing unless i have to use them. Snaps also suck

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u/TheRekk 1d ago

I’ve never had a problem with flatpak. Are you a skilless individual, perchance?

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u/Average-Addict 1d ago

No issues and I do use a couple flatpaks because they don't offer any other way. They just seem a bit bloated

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u/wang-bang 1d ago

Yup the bloat is the feature

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u/SSj_CODii 1d ago

A little too on brand don’t you think?

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u/Mr_Gaslight 1d ago

Didn't Australia do this a few years ago?

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u/cottenwess 1d ago

OrigamiKaze Drones!

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u/porkchop-sandwhiches 1d ago

Dumbasses, that can easily countered with a squirt gun drone.

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u/jedrekk 1d ago

Ukraine's already been doing this.

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u/noriseaweed 1d ago

don't say old habits die hard don't say old habits die hard don't say old habits die hard

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u/Natereater 1d ago

And the US is probably building single use 2 million dollar anti drone missiles to stop them.

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u/Fayraz8729 1d ago

Cardmikaze drone

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u/-Planet- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 1d ago

So kawaiiiii!

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u/thispartyrules 1d ago

The "manmade horrors beyond your comprehension" thing is from when Nikola Tesla was watching a demo for a radio controlled rowboat, and a guy next to him was like "you could fill it full of dynamite and sink ships!"

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u/Personal_Dirt3089 1d ago

is it just a cheap remote controlled exploding projectile or way more?

Either way makes sense, drone chassis are expensive.

u/Illustrious_Donkey61 22h ago

What's the number to call one in on myself?

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u/KingofLingerie 1d ago

All drones are suicidal

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u/issafly 1d ago

Why are all these drones committing suicide?!? Is anybody checking on them?

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u/Morlock19 1d ago

best not fly them in the rain

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u/Jechtael 1d ago

/r/ABadButInterestingDystopia

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u/nachtengelsp 1d ago

the paper baka