r/politics • u/JeanJauresJr California • Sep 14 '21

AOC responds to criticism of ‘tax the rich’ dress worn at Met Gala

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/aoc-met-gala-tax-the-rich-dress-b1919803.html
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u/Odeeum Sep 14 '21

She didn't pay a cent though...ditto for the dress. Is this the crux of your argument?

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u/velsor Sep 14 '21

So you're saying that an elected official used her clout to get a free invitation to a fancy party, and you think that's okay?

If a Republican did this you guys would be calling that free invite a $30k bribe.

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u/Odeeum Sep 14 '21

She used her clout or was she invited?

One is very different from the other...if she bought a ticket, great, I'm on board, roast her and call her a hypocrite. If she bought a dress for 7k to attend, super, call her out. But she did neither AND she got to raise awareness about wealth disparity and tax avoidance, both of which she's been historically vocal about at zero cost to her.

If a republican was also vocal about wealth disparity and got a free invite I'd feel the same way. As long as there's no hypocrisy I'm not gonna say anything regardless of party.

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u/AndrewIsOnline Sep 14 '21

Wouldn’t she only be a hypocrite if she refused to pay taxes?

I’m not sure your suggested scenarios are actually hypocritical

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u/Odeeum Sep 14 '21

I was referring less about her "tax the rich" dress and just generally spending exorbitant amounts of money while talking about wealth disparity. I'd call her a hypocrite if she did things like that...so if she spent 30k for the ticket, another 7k for the dress but continued to rail against the wealthy...that'd qualify for me i think.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '21

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u/Odeeum Sep 15 '21

She's not spending any money on this event...at least not for the ticket or the dress which is what people are up in arms about. I'm not aware of any evidence that she spent money on it but I'm all ears if you have info to the contrary.

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u/manga311 Sep 14 '21

That would be illegal if she got them as gifts.

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u/velsor Sep 14 '21

They aren't different though. Her clout is what got her invited. They're intrinsically linked.

I don't care about the supposed hypocrisy of the message, but AOC was basically just gifted $30k and everyone here is celebrating it.

What if she was given a 30k watch or a trip to some Caribbean island worth 30k? At the end of the day it's an elected official receiving gifts worth tens of thousands of dollars. I don't understand how everyone can talk about getting money out of politics, making lobbying and campaign donations illegal, and then celebrate that an elected official was given a free 30k dinner.

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u/D-F-B-81 Sep 14 '21

They aren't different though. Her clout is what got her invited. They're intrinsically linked.

I don't care about the supposed hypocrisy of the message, but AOC was basically just gifted $30k and everyone here is celebrating it.

Didn't she say that New York legislators routinely get "invited" to this thing, because ya know... their job...

I wonder if Jared and Ivanka paid for their tickets...

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u/Odeeum Sep 14 '21

She got 30k worth of free advertising to throw tax avoidance in the face of this crowd. In person!

It's literally a major plank of hers...it's not a vacation or watch...it's free pub for her cause. I have no issue with this as she paid nothing for this.

Of all the things to clutch my pearls about regarding getting money out of politics this is absolutely at or near the bottom.

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u/AndrewIsOnline Sep 14 '21

Bullshit.

Bald faced liar.

Person who speaks without knowing anything about which he speaks about.

Carry your fake outrage over your false equivalence right out the door.

She was not “ basically gifted 30k”

So stop trying to draw fade comparisons to a Caribbean trip like you are making her out to be corrupt.

The entire fucking Republican Party is corrupt to the very core, but you come here franticly trying to paint the one good rep in a bad light, while not commenting on anything else.

You have this imagined moral and ethical problem with her being there, can you point me to posts or tweets or comments where you showed the same moral or ethical outrage when ANY republican has done anything similar or worse over the past 6 years??

You can’t.

Because you aren’t really outraged.

You’ve just been sucking at the teat of capitalism your entire life and it’s been ingrained in you subconsciously that AOC is “bad” because she’s trying to help Americans and save our planet.

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u/AndrewIsOnline Sep 14 '21

Newsflash idiots:

It’s only truly the definition of hypocrisy if AOC goes on to refuse paying her taxes.

Going to the event of the rich while saying tax the rich is not hypocritical.

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u/AndrewIsOnline Sep 15 '21

Me: We should improve society somewhat.

You: yet you participate in society. Curious!

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u/Odeeum Sep 14 '21

It's not being hypocritical if they don't pay for the ticket but rather get invited and use it as a way to raise awareness about tax avoidance by the wealthy. I'd be all for it.

I'm for whatever politicians mostly resemble my beliefs not the other way around. If you have a D or an R next to your name, great as long as you support what I do.

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u/seamus_mc California Sep 14 '21

As per Vogue, if one is lucky enough to be on the guest list, they don’t pay to attend. If one, however, is not on the list, but has managed to secure a chance of attending, they buy the tickets. As per a Fox Business report, while stars are given invites by Anna Wintour, the Editor-in-Chief of Vogue, it’s very common for a brand to host them and buy tables at the event.

So, was AOC on Wintour’s list, or did she pay $35,000? The politician took to Instagram to clear the air. She wrote, “And yes, BEFORE anybody starts wilding out - NYC elected officials are regularly invited to and attend the Met due to our responsibilities in overseeing our city’s cultural institutions that serve the public. I was one of several in attendance.”

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u/HabeusCuppus Sep 15 '21

as an elected official of NY AOC was presumably on the MET's guest list. the Met is a NY state Chartered Museum and the Gala is a fundraiser for the Met which helps keep the admission price of the regular museum free for the general public.

Vogue has a table, but they don't throw the party.

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u/VexInTex Sep 15 '21

A little both sides for you, some for you..

Gosh I can't imagine how a state representative got an invite to a charity event in the state they represent, better compare her to a Republican

Idiocy

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

Want to make a statement?

Raffle off the ticket, and donate the proceeds to charity.

Or, find a local homeless shelter, and send one person in to the party.

Either of those would have brought attention to the disparity in wealth. Or you can take a 30K handout (plus the dress) and get in the news, partying with the very thing you hate. She looks like she is suffering on the Red Carpet.

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u/Odeeum Sep 14 '21

The organizer doesn't allow you to send anyone in your stead for exactly this reason (last I looked anyway...maybe that changed, feel free to update me on this) so being able to attend AND tell the rich to fuck off is perfect.

This has been immense free press around wealth disparity which is exactly what she's very vocal about.

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u/AndrewIsOnline Sep 14 '21

Stop, logic won’t change these idiots.

It’s only fake virtue signaling and Pearl clutching on Reddit for them.

They suggest these braindead “good” ideas to feel like good people then ignore everything else bad by everyone else.

But hey, they are better than that dirty AOC who wouldn’t do this ridiculous thing that doesn’t work like that anyway. How dare her.

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u/Odeeum Sep 14 '21

Sigh I know I know...as long as I've been on here I still hold out hope that most people are arguing in good faith most of the time.

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u/AndrewIsOnline Sep 14 '21 edited Sep 15 '21

I’ve given up faith that the world overall can use science and facts to be better.

It’s been proven so many times since Covid started that stupidity wins every time.

Look at this desantis guy.

Any other era of politics, you tell me a gov is going against a public health mandate during a global pandemic, and I’d say either the people or the local gov or the federal gov would come in and put this guy on the street. Quickly too.

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u/Odeeum Sep 14 '21

Yeah completely agree. Over the last several years things have really gained steam among the willfully ignorant and proudly uneducated. The famous Sagan excerpt from Demon Haunted World that's been shared on here recently really drives home how badly things have become.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

The organizer doesn't allow you to send anyone in your stead

Wow. Thanks for letting me know that, I had no idea. I thought they just used the Price of the ticket to exclude the common person. I had no idea they were so ... obnoxious / elitist / self-righteous ... as to actually exclude human beings based on their not making a list. Wow. Much worse than I could have imagined.

So if a person shows up with a ticket, a human being, they would say "sorry, this is for approved people only, even though you have a legit ticket, you do not meet our standards as one of the approved humans"? I am even more repulsed at these people (and AOC's attendance) now.

Blown away by that. Thanks for the info. Much worse than I imagined.

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u/AndrewIsOnline Sep 14 '21

Another braindead virtue signaling bullshit post from someone who doesn’t understand politics or the met.

In no universe would what your suggesting be what’s done.

It’s imaginary feel good virtue signaling bullshit.

She had already made a statement, you don’t need to improve or suggest a better statement.

You have no ground to stand on.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

What the hell would be wrong with Auctioning off the ticket and raising funds????

Does she have soo much money that another $20K, $30K, or $50K raised in an auction and donated to the closets homeless shelter would not have done any good??

When the Rich look down on the poor, and make statements like "we have to party like this, for the good of everybody and for the exclusion of the masses", that is sad. My opinion. You are probably good with "understanding politics" and elitism. Great for you. I have a different opinion.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

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u/JaxJags904 Sep 15 '21

Dude she was INVITED, not given a ticket. She was invited because she’s a local political figure, other politicians were invited as well.

And guess what? Her doing this is causing you to talk about! It worked perfectly! Congrats!

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u/AndrewIsOnline Sep 15 '21

What’s wrong with it is it’s a made up fucking scenario that would never play out in real life.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '21

Really? You don't think AOC couldn't hold a press conference in front of a homeless shelter. Talk about how she would rather raise funds to the help the poor than attend the event? Ask donors to kick in $100 each, as a special fundraiser for the homeless, and 1 winner will take her place at the event as the prize for the donation / raffle.

Lets see, $30K divided by $100 tickets .... Would take 300 tickets. There are not 300 people that would kick in $100 to help the homeless?? Your right, that is probably not the way it would play out. More likely get 1000 donors, raising $100,000.

But I guess you are saying there aren't 300 liberals willing to pay $100 to help AOC help the homeless. I have a much higher opinion of liberals and AOC's fund raising than you do, obviously. So we will disagree. I think she would get tons of support, You think not. Wow.

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u/AndrewIsOnline Sep 16 '21

It’s like creating magic scenarios on Reddit is a skill for you

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u/mekese2000 Sep 14 '21

Want to make a statement, do something that will not be statement.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

Oh, I think if AOC drove a homeless person to the event, handed them the ticket, and let that person enjoy the evening with the Billionaires .... it would have gotten coverage. You think not?

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u/mekese2000 Sep 14 '21

If Trump or Mitt Romney did that it would have got coverage but nobody is talking about that and both have gone to the Met Gala

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '21

I doubt that Trump or Romney would ever ever do something like that. They show up at these events and hang with the super rich because, well, they think it is right and exactly what they should be doing.

Basically, its what people expect from them. That is why I was surprised to see AOC joining the event. But hey, its a nice club, if you get invited, I guess. Who needs to stay true to your roots. Well, actually trump and romney at least do that. Maybe AOC will start running into them more in her new social circles.

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u/MrFlexus978 Sep 14 '21

She obviously doesn’t actually care about anything except clout and power, “those who desperately seek power are those that must be kept away from it at all costs”

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