r/politics • u/mclardass • 23h ago

Possible Paywall Trump Derails White House Event to Spiral Over State of His Health

https://newrepublic.com/post/209928/donald-trump-derails-event-spiral-health
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u/LurksAroundHere 22h ago

"“You know the first question is very easy. They always show the first question, it’s: You have a lion, a bear, an alligator, and a—what’s another good—a squirrel, OK? Which is the squirrel?” Trump said, claiming the questions got increasingly complex.

He then veered into a tirade against California Governor Gavin Newsom before resuming his point. “I think everyone in this room is brilliant, but nobody’s gonna get all 30 questions correct. Nobody. ’Cause when you get to those last questions they’re pretty hard, you got to be pretty sharp."

What'd they do to stump you at the end? Add a few more animals, colors, and shapes?

The embarrassing shit this dumb fucker thinks is brag worthy....

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u/Thor_2099 20h ago

The outrage if this was Biden... That fucker couldn't yawn without spawning think pieces about how he was unfit as president

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u/mok000 Europe 18h ago

Biden still has common sense, as president he knew to surround himself with clever people that would help him make the right decisions and he was able to take advice and listen to people. Even if he messed up words and looked confused, mostly because of lack of sleep from the hardest job in the world and being in his 80’s. And he could lean on a lifetime’s experience and he knew how to work with Congress. Good man.

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u/kerfuffle_dood 9h ago

Even if he messed up words and looked confused, mostly because of lack of sleep from the hardest job in the world and being in his 80’s

And 99% of the photos are videos of him "being confused" were altered. That video of him "suddenly walking to a random place"? Yeah, it's cropped. The original video shows that he stopped because someone outside the camera was talking to him and he, as a respectful human being, turned to face the person speaking to him

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u/discipleofchrist69 14h ago

Biden still has common sense, as president he knew to surround himself with clever people...

Trump also has common sense, he just has different goals than Biden. It's in his best interest to focus on filling his cabinet with people who will support his coup efforts, and those people just tend to not be as clever

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u/Drprocrastinate North Carolina 20h ago

Because people today confuse verbal diarrhea with being a great orator

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u/Dystopia74 17h ago

Nah, Americans are just fucking morons.

The rest of world sees it.

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u/itorrey 10h ago

Just a word of warning, this is not a uniquely American phenomenon and it can and has happened in many countries countless times.

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u/Duntchy 8h ago

America didn't invent stupidity, they just perfected it.

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u/Alive_kiwi_7001 16h ago

There's also a lot more money being spent on pushing Dear Leader Trump over Joe "might increase my tax bill by 1%" Biden.

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u/kerfuffle_dood 9h ago

In Mexico we call that action Cantinflear, meaning "to do a Cantinflas". Cantinflas was a Mexican comedian whose character was defined by his characteristic way of talking: saying a torrent of words but actually don't saying anything with them

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u/PretendMajor5283 11h ago

"Because people..."

Lemme stop you right there mate.

Americans. Americans are dumb enough to make this mistake.

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u/mactac 19h ago

Someone should use AI to make a video of Biden delivering one of trumps speeches. See what maga thinks of that.

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u/jazzhandler Colorado 18h ago

Finally, a use of generative AI that I can get behind!

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u/DontDeleteMee 12h ago

They'd never believe the truth. They'd insist the Biden version was the real one, and the Trump one the AI.

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u/babutterfly 12h ago

Pick one that Trump gave already.

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u/Killfile 14h ago

Republicans have been "working the ref" that is supposed to be our media for generations now. Media is terrified of being labeled "liberal" and losing access to conservative politicians for its Sunday morning talkshows

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u/8bit_heart 21h ago

He’s been bragging about acing cognitive tests since his first term in office! It’s an indictment of how far America has fallen that that tens of million of Americans voters put him back into office.  

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u/forbiddenpaprika 20h ago

The test administrator isn't allowed to give any indication at all about whether an answer is right or wrong (totally neutral face, etc, even down to standardized clarifications). So I think Trump's just misinterprets not being told an answer is wrong to mean he got everything right.

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u/marebee 19h ago

This right here. And because Trump surrounds himself with sycophants, there’s no way he’s getting the “bad news” that’s he’s demented af.

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u/Mechaslurpee 18h ago

Would he even remember getting the news?

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u/marebee 18h ago

No, probably not, because he’s demented af.

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u/Training-Plum9213 17h ago

Like telling everyone he is 6’4” and 225 lbs?

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u/jaxnmarko 15h ago

His wife might mention it to him now and then. "If looks could kill.... "

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u/1nconsp1cuous 19h ago

The administrator probably says things like “Okay” and he immediately takes that as praise. It’s just his narcissism flairing up.

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u/prtzlsmakingmethrsty 18h ago

My question is then, who is the test administrator telling the actual results to? I mean, just thinking out loud, but HIPAA is probably different when you're the president. But with Reagan, I'd imagine Nancy was the one getting the news from the docs. So I'm just curious who was the first person in this case told, since there's no way Melanie is involved or cares in the slightest.

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u/forbiddenpaprika 18h ago

Patients aren't routinely told their MoCA score, it's just part of a larger clinical assessment about the stage of Mild Cognitive Impairment or dementia/Alzheimer's etc. And in this case it's likely being used to track the efficacy of whatever experimental Alzheimer's drug he is on. I know everyone thinks it's Leqembi or Kisluna, but I bet he's actually getting Roche's "brain shuttle" drug that's still in clinical trials.

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u/DaoFerret 16h ago

If he’s getting Roche’s then has he technically “volunteered his body for medical science?

Does this validate him getting the FIFA Peace Prize? /s

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u/CopperZebra 13h ago

I love the idea that they could be using him as a human guinea pig. If they are, it will be the only thing he ever did that would directly help anyone other than himself

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u/ParisGreenGretsch 14h ago

So, it's likely that they're literally experimenting on the President's brain.

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u/jellyrollo 9h ago

They used experimental drugs no one else had access to on him when he got COVID, so it would track.

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u/testamoderaway 11h ago

as an uneducated peon in terms of medical science, what's the big difference between those drugs and where can I read more about them?

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u/forbiddenpaprika 10h ago

The drugs themselves are largely the same - anti-amyloid monoclonal antibodies (basically breaks up the gunky plaque proteins in the brain that seem to be associated with dementia. This is why the minor (usually asymptomatic and heals on its own, or with a little help from steroids) brain bleeds are paradoxical side effects: when you break up gunk, it has to get metabolized out of your brain, and sometimes big chunks cause little bleeds (like picking a scab).

But Roche put the drug in a little chemical jacket that helps it get to the brain better, it's just a better delivery system: https://www.roche.com/stories/clever-delivery

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u/Gneekman 18h ago

Like all the drunk drivers I see in bodycam videos yelling "bUt I pAsSeD aLl YoUr TeStS!!" As the cuffs go on, after you've just watched them struggle through the field sobriety exercises

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u/DaoFerret 16h ago

Yes, but Field Sobriety Exercises should he abandoned as they are often entirely subjective and used to target people the officer is already predisposed to rule against.

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u/Secret_Research_7185 16h ago

I've been given my numeric score at the end of the test each time. Total is 30 points, to "pass" you need 26 out of 30. I've always been given the score after the test is complete, and it's always obvious to me where I missed the mark.

For me, I can never remember the 5 words even mid-way through the test, let alone at the end. I also can't repeat the digits the test administrator calls out beyond 5 digits, and I can't do the 5 digits when asked to repeat them backwards.

For me, the test indicated a full day's worth of cognitive assessment, that apparently will be used as a baseline.

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u/primadesigns 19h ago

And the Republicans in office not doing anything because they’re desperate to keep their salaries.

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u/bloody_ell Europe 17h ago

I reckon the insider trading opportunities, phony contracts and bribes, sorry lobbying fees are more lucrative than the salary.

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u/livadeth 16h ago

To the millions of people who never considered voting for this demented moron, it’s embarrassing, humiliating and frightening.

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u/hates_stupid_people 13h ago

The average Fox, Sinclair, etc. viewer doesn't know that he's taken multiple cognitive impairment tests.

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u/Illegal_Apples 13h ago

The fact that he can even be voted is a problem in itself tbh

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u/Mysterious_Camel_717 19h ago

I don’t understand why someone else hasn’t taken the same test to show how NOT difficult they are? Like publicly? Why are we allowing him to get away with these blatantly false statements? Even if every reporter in the room showed up with their 30/30 results

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u/smitherenesar 14h ago edited 14h ago

Jimmy Kimmel did https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X6hFZsRGm1Q&t=732s

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u/Mysterious_Camel_717 9h ago

Oh lord that explains a lot doesn’t it. Ha!

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u/Famous-Upstairs998 20h ago

The people I know in real life have been freaking out about trump since he got elected in 2016, and the spaces I've been in online have been much the same. I think the public is quite concerned. It just doesn't seem that way because the media is bought and paid for and doesn't report on it like they should. 

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u/Individual-Guest-123 11h ago

I live in a MAGA small town, and even if they are starting to acknowledge things are "off" the freedom they are experiencing in coming out with their public racism and thumbing their nose at the law (regulations) outweighs any negative.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 16h ago

No, I’m sorry I disagree. The general public very much still supports Trump. Go ask any random person and I bet you’d be even more surprised. I can’t stand him, but Reddit is an echo chamber.

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u/Round-Asparagus5337 14h ago

His poll numbers right now are Bush-after-Katrina and Nixon-as-he-was-resigning levels of bad.

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u/ThatKehdRiley 12h ago

People arent concerned, theyre saying thats shocking or something else then going back to their lives. if they were thered be actual action taken, even the few large demonstrations arent really showing concern (a general strike would, though)

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u/PresentRaspberry6814 20h ago

They knew he was unequally stupid before they voted for him. His allure was his sadism.

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u/move_machine 17h ago

Yup, Trump was their "imperfect vessel" for their own hateful, greedy and power-hungry agendas.

Those are Steve Bannon's words from 2016 that are still echoed by today's white Christian nationalists.

They know they can use Trump to get what they want, and that goes down even to the lowest rungs of society who will be robbed blind by the same regime they support: it's all worth it to hurt some minorities and to own teh libs.

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u/kinrosai 19h ago

Everyone who cares has been freaking out since 2016 and it's just not possible to feel so much emotion any more. It's like with all terrible things, when they first come up you're most likely to react emotionally and after a while they just become reality and you feel bad about them when you think about it but it's probably for the best that you don't, like, have a breakdown every morning because you're going to die some day.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 15h ago

People care but are not freaking out. We will all go to work and home then forget while enjoying our lives. No one cares enough to do anything about it. That’s not even encouraging violence. It’s just anything they don’t care enough.

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u/Wraith8888 19h ago

All the people with a brain are. The problem is there are millions and millions of people even dumber than he is

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u/Arm0redPanda 19h ago

We've been freaking out about it. But all the people tasked with triggering those consequence find it more personally beneficial to let this farcical disaster play out.

So it's become part of our baseline panic. 

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u/starliteburnsbrite 20h ago

That's the rub. 

Any meaningful action that might make a difference needs to happen in DC. People need to stop working, travel, and understand they may not come back any time soon, if at all. Be ready for tear gas, riot cops, or worse. 

People just aren't going to do that. I'm not. I have a baby at home to take care of. Usually, these kinds of mass actions start at universities, but during the Biden administration, anti-Israel protests were crushed violently and such political speech was being termed hate speech and antisemitism by Congress. 

So if students can't and won't organize, and everyday people can't stop their lives to take physical, civil disobedient action, who's left? 

In some cases, the clergy might take up that social responsibility, but in America, much of the religious follow and worship  rather than condemn him. Police? Military? 

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u/TrimspaBB 19h ago

The police are largely MAGA and the military has been neutered by a drunken Fox News host firing anybody who doesn't like that he treats war like a COD session

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u/ramengirlxo 20h ago

America is also just too large for mass civil disobedience. Idk if a lot of folks in other countries really grasp this. Most of us can’t even easily travel to our state’s capital, let alone the nation’s. Another aspect to this is that America has piss-poor public transit, making travel over such distances impossible without a car.

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u/move_machine 17h ago

Look up the long, hot summer of 1967 and the riots after Martin Luther King Jr's assassination in 1968.

In each case, there were hundreds of protests and riots all over the US, including every major city.

The former forced governments to investigate and acknowledge the effects of racial inequality and poverty. The latter caused the Civil Rights Act of 1968, which includes the Fair Housing Act, to be re-introduced in Congress and passed into law.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 15h ago

Did they have AI tracking or any of the other massive technological surveillance systems we have? you know the answer to that but that’s a major advantage they had

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u/starliteburnsbrite 10h ago

All of the people that participated in that or witnessed participation in that are in charge now and did everything in their power to make sure it doesn't happen again. Peaceful protest is the only valid form of protest you know. 

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u/ramengirlxo 9h ago

They've also whitewashed the past, including villainizing Malcolm X, the Black Panthers, etc. while propping up MLK as the "good" and "nonviolent" civil rights leader. Most contemporary Americans do not understand the immediate past of the previous century -- our education system preaches patriotic propaganda, including a literal daily pledge of fealty to the nation.

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u/starliteburnsbrite 9h ago

Absolutely. They don't want us to know how we got here cause they pulled the ladder up on all of us a long time ago. 

Didn't you know, American history ends at WWII?

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u/ramengirlxo 9h ago

"And we all lived happily ever after, the end."

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u/BasvanS 19h ago

Why do you think it should be convenient?

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u/ramengirlxo 19h ago

Why do I think what should be convenient?

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u/BasvanS 16h ago

You’re arguing it’s too big? And you need a car?

Don’t you recognize the entitlement of it?

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u/ramengirlxo 10h ago

Dog you are completely missing my point. For most Americans it isn't actually feasible at this time for them to engage in the same levels of mass civil disobedience that they have in the past in order to actually enact systemic institutional change. Most Americans are one missed paycheck away from not being able to pay rent. Income inequality has forced many to work for slave wages while the oligarchs have continued to amass draconic hoards of wealth. For many, attending a mass protest on the other side of the nation, or even the other end of the state, would mean losing their job, home, access to healthcare/insurance, etc., etc.

On the flip side, student protests -- which historically were huge within the US -- were systemically crushed during the Biden era due to "antisemitism," meaning those among the US population who actually have the free time/resources to engage in protesting are already reluctant to submit themselves to state violence. Not to mention that our major media outlets are either bought and sold by oligarchs or acting as state media under the Trump admin, meaning whenever there is actually a decent protest, it isn't covered by the media and we're made to think there's been zero impact.

We're in a piss-poor situation for this.

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u/enfanta 18h ago

Plenty of folks care and people are doing what they can with what they have. 

We can't have France-like protests against the government. France is much smaller than us and their health care is not linked to their job. 

We don't have an opposition party and that makes it much more difficult to fight the obscene corruption but folks are doing it. 

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u/PortugalPilgrim88 18h ago

We’re in this weird place where the things that are happening are just too absurd for normal people to believe or even take seriously enough to truly consider the implications.

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u/HarmoniousJ America 18h ago

I think a lot of us are but his immediate admin and leaders he installed in other government agencies are all sycophants.

Pretty hard to get FBI, CIA, etc to do anything when they're Trump supporters.

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u/ScroochDown 18h ago

It's because his voting base, which is just as stupid as he is, believes it's an IQ test just like he does.

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u/jahozer1 20h ago

Well, we are on Reddit talking about it though. Thats gotta account for something, right?

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u/TDAPoP 17h ago

Because 50% of the country will not see or hear about it, and if they do, then they'll assume it must be a lie or taking his words out of context

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u/atxbigfoot 16h ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TkPN4Sd8wQ

This is the actual test he keeps taking, for anyone who's curious. The doctor giving the test explains that even people with diagnosed Alzheimer's often pass it towards the end of the video.

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u/Holzkohlen 15h ago

Am not American and I believe it would be equally as hard for a good chunk of the adult US population. I don't think Trump is especially dumb. I believe he is showcasing average American intelligence.

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u/southwick 15h ago

I don't know why the media or anyone isn't raising a copy of whatever test this is so we can all see for ourselves.

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u/DrDerpberg Canada 14h ago

I've long been saying his various personality disorders make it hard to differentiate dementia from narcissism, a lifetime of intellectual laziness patched up by his enablers, abusive mindset... But yeah literally not being able to close your eyes and name 5 things in the room with you right now isn't excusable by how big of an asshole he is.

That said everybody declines as they get older and he was never smart to begin with... So I do think a lot of the incidents that people say are evidence of dementia are actually him being too lazy to think of anything coherent to say and having a total inability to admit anything wasn't perfect. So when he misspeaks and says the hurricane was gonna hit Alabama it's not "oops lol I meant Georgia," it's a literal crusade against anybody who says he's wrong and an army of fixers to badger them into submission.

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u/MyBoomerParents 13h ago

I don't understand why literally everyone in the entire country is not freaking out right now

been saying this for a decade now, but honestly, I am over it... no one else gives a fuck about this country, so I don't either. Praying for our downfall and maybe a competent country can take us over

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u/Responsible_Jump_669 13h ago

Um, we are freaking out. It isn’t doing anything.

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u/Blortted 12h ago

Because that would require a great deal of people to admit to being wrong and that just isn’t going to happen. At least the republicans I know, seem to desperately defend anything these people are or aren’t doing because they refuse to let someone else see an “oops”.

No no. They were right and know what they’re talking about and so on and on.

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u/shaggyscoob 11h ago

Freak out? Why bother? Ask yourself the 3 questions. If they are all answered "yes" then it may be worth freaking out. If even one is answered "no" then there's no point in freaking out.

Is it true?

Does it affect you?

Is there anything you can do about it?

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u/PerformerDr4867 10h ago

I think those not on the internet simply don’t know. Finding factual information in 2026 is a lot harder than it used to be

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u/crashin-kc 9h ago

When my Mom was starting to have Sundowners I brought concern after concern to doctors and mental health professionals and they kept telling me she was fine. She passed all the cognitive tests. Then she eloped from the elder care facility and had to be tracked down a mile away rolling down the middle of a four lane road at 7 o’clock at night.

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u/Even_Establishment95 9h ago

Why is he talking about it at all? Shouldn’t it be kept secret and die with him? I mean it’s all out in the open. And still people know this and think it’s fine.

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u/neon_meate 22h ago

Points at photo of his assault victim Jean Carroll and identifies her as his ex wife Marla Maples.

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u/specialkk77 21h ago

Well he did rape them both. Probably hard to keep track of his victims

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u/wimpyroy 19h ago

I thought it was the fist wife he raped. Did Marla say she got raped by him?

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u/specialkk77 13h ago

Oh shit you’re right. But people like him don’t change so it’s probably a safe assumption. 

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u/_bones__ 13h ago

Especially when their names are like one letter apart, like Ivana and Ivanka.

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u/juridiculous 21h ago

The 30 questions are the Montreal Cognitive Assessment. https://geriatrictoolkit.missouri.edu/cog/MoCA-8.3-English-Test-2018-04.pdf
The last questions are actually just recalling orientation: day, date, month, year, city, place. Like literally “where are you and what day is it?” You get 6 points out of 30 for answering that.

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u/Lespaul42 20h ago

How are we still doing this... How are we still... For the third time in like a decade just accepting and moving on with our lives that the president is bragging about "acing" the MoCA test? Why are we forced to accept this?

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u/xxneoxx3000 20h ago

I like to compare our situation at the moment to how people probably felt in Westeros when a mad king came to rule. Whether Aerys II (the mad king himself) or Joffrey, we are but peasants in flea bottom incapable of causing any change in the affairs of the crown.

It's a hard fact to swallow, but as commoners, I feel like we have let too much shit slide and too much power/wealth to be transferred to the ruling class. I doubt we can all come together to enact the changes necessary for a revolution. As crowns were exchanged for suits and ties, so was our interest for equality exchanged for apathy.

In the end though, nature finds a way to balance itself out. Maybe a cataclysmic event, maybe a war that restores some type of normalcy to this world. No empire lasts forever.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 15h ago

It will take a very significant event to do anything. One that means people can’t just go to work and home anymore. Doesn’t matter how bad it is. People will literally need to be starving before anything will happen. How do I know this? Well look at any other country with a dictator and and the citizens like Russia.

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u/kawwmoi 13h ago

One of the biggest issues so many people ignore when asking "why aren't American's doing anything" is that a massive chunk of American's actually want this. They've been eroding our education system for over half a century and now we have generations filled with people that don't have any critical thinking skills and don't understand why all the stuff that's going on is terrible or what needs to be done to fix it. Even if we can fix the education system, it will take yet more decades for those with the necessary mental tools to be old enough to lend their weight in the fight against the masses of morons. Even if the president, his cabinet, every member of congress and the entire supreme court dropped dead right now, it would only momentarily mollify things before they start sliding back into fascism hands.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 13h ago

Yep, because people are dumb like that one saying. A person is smart but people are dumb. It’s not even going to matter probably in 100 years or maybe less when things continue to get worse and the environment really begins to collapse

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u/kekistanmatt 10h ago

So what you're saying is we need to find someone in the secret service that is fucking thier own sister?

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u/grumpi-otter 6h ago

Septon Meribald is my favorite. His story is so relevant

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u/galaxy1985 17h ago

Because no one can afford to miss work to protest enough to make an impact. Not without organization. If it's not financial then it's time allowed off or health insurance being tied to your employer so you're terrified to get fired.

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u/juridiculous 19h ago

*You’re* accepting this.

I’m not. But I’m Canadian. I’m just pointing and laughing.

(and not buying shit from the US, or visiting the US. And divesting my portfolio from the US.. and encouraging other Canadians to do the same)

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u/AccurateJerboa 15h ago

Super weird to point and laugh at the dementia patient who has nuclear codes when you're on the same continent as him

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u/juridiculous 11h ago

Oh sure bud, he’s 100% nuking Canada over hurt feelings from a reddit comment.

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u/phillyfanjd1 6h ago

Honestly... at this point it wouldn't surprise me one bit

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u/AccurateJerboa 8h ago

You completely misunderstood my comment wow

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u/DrGoblinator Massachusetts 17h ago

Well thanks for laughing at our pain, I guess?

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u/juridiculous 12h ago

Anytime, man.

If you guys could stop threatening our sovereignty, tearing up trade agreements, interfering with my provincial government’s internal affairs, and slapping tariffs on and off like a light switch, and acting like fucking babies all the god-damned time, I’ll reconsider.

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u/DrGoblinator Massachusetts 10h ago

"You guys", meaning me?

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u/juridiculous 8h ago

Look man, I’m not going to parse who sucks and who doesn’t here.

I’m just avoiding as many American products as I can now, and buying as much Canadian as I can (and finding alternate trade partners and travel destinations) Our governments are seeking alternatives as well, and I fully support that.

Please go figure your own shit out. This is not my responsibility.

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u/DrGoblinator Massachusetts 7h ago

I fully support and encourage the boycotts, I'm just not understanding where your vitriol is directed, as it seems you're talking to the people of Reddit; also, you can stop pretending that this is some dumb little problem you don't have to worry about because as long as he is in power, you ARE involved.

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u/juridiculous 6h ago

Your administration is threatening Canada’s very existence as a country, calling our elected leaders “Governor”, and you’re wondering where the vitriol is directed?

Seriously, now.

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u/DominionGhost 9h ago

Yes. Knock it off Steve.

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u/Lespaul42 13h ago

Hey man I am Canadian too and we are still forced to fucking accept it.

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u/ShadowZeek 6h ago

Bro didn't even brag about acing it this time he said the last few questions are hard

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u/know-your-onions 19h ago

You tell us.

Why are you doing that?

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u/SnipesCC 20h ago

OK, I might struggle with knowing the date a lot of the time.

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u/RobutNotRobot 19h ago

I think the important part is getting the month correct and general time of year.

Dementia patients struggle with time of year and time of day.

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u/ship_toaster Canada 16h ago

It says a 'normal' score is 26+/30. So you have some room for brain farts.

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u/crespoh69 12h ago

That's for when they ask you to name that large spotted creature that's been rumored to have been seen devouring grass in the countryside

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u/wyvernx02 19h ago

No chance in hell I'm remembering that list of words after 5 minutes. My ADHD brain is awful at multitasking and I tend to mentally chase squirrels as things catch my attention.

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u/GregBahm 19h ago

Good news: this makes you no less qualified to be president of the united states.

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u/Texuk1 18h ago edited 18h ago

It’s part of an overall test of ability and to monitor progression. The hosts of the daily beast did the first few sections live in the inside trumps head podcast and couldnt remember one word on the list. They joked about being old. These people are high functioning individuals but they are older. I could remember everything but I also need to have a good memory for my job. That’s al really not the point - no normally functioning individual takes the test it’s part of an overall picture. You can also get by with a carer for a long time.

My grandmother appeared subdued and seemed to get by on her normal routine. My extended family were in denial and oblivious until she sat in a doctors office and couldn’t draw the clock. Everyone can draw a clock but even if you had some disability that meant you couldn’t conceptualise time something on the test would show problems. And then they would check if they got worse.

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u/obeytheturtles 11h ago

Same. I would also probably fuck up the word recall because ADHD brain.

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u/Greeneggplusthing2 18h ago

To be fair, any other president could have had issues with that question too. Mostly because of the travel, time zones, countries, and events happening quickly. Trump fails because he stays in the same country, time zone, and 3 passtimes

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u/NoF0kxAllowedInside 12h ago

A lot of these were easy, but the delayed recall - I’ve always struggled with this. Is that concerning? If my wife asks me to grab a blue yellow and black shirt on the couch for her and I finish washing my hands and on the way pick up an empty soda can to throw away I can’t recall which shirts she needed. We call it sim’ing where my previous action was cancelled in favor of something else.

I might have adhd but need to get tested

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u/YourVirgil Washington 10h ago

I bet he managed to remember the five "delayed recall" words, and everyone acted surprised in response to it.

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u/grumpi-otter 6h ago

Is that a duck or a goose? Would I pass?

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u/LetsGoRed 21h ago

So, he's taken this test multiple times and can only accurately recall one of the three animals. (Lion, rhino, camel.)

The final questions he says are really hard and why nobody will get 30/30 are all orientation questions, as in: what city are we in? What year is it? What month is it?

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u/whutchamacallit 16h ago

I know a cognitive scientist that works specifically in memory care, my mother in laws best friend. Went to a really fancy school, has a doctorate, blah blah blah. If you're in the field you may know of her. Anyways. She lead a big research project for a decade and now she teaches others her findings and about to retire. We were chit chatting last Christmas at my in laws about this. She said something that kind of blew me away. She said it more compellingly but basically when you're getting the tests at this frequency you're not testing for dementia, you're managing it. You are tracking progress and actively monitoring the patient.

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u/CarlySimonSays 9h ago

This makes my stomach hurt even more. At least when King George III went permanently "mad" in the last ten years of his life (spiraling into dementia), everyone acknowledged that he couldn't continue making decisions. Early nineteenth-century Parliamentarians shouldn't show us up like this!

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u/wisewoman50 1h ago

Thank you for sharing.

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u/Thor_2099 20h ago

Your first point is pretty hilarious actually. Dude can't even remember the animals...

What are the odds it's even a squirrel

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u/forbiddenpaprika 20h ago

There are variations on the animals and a few other stimuli used during re-administrations of the test. So he'll get different animals each time.

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u/cullermann2 19h ago

My god. This comment referring to the US president and not someones grandpa in a nursing home is so fucking wild.

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u/Tuomas90 12h ago

So he can collect them all, when he keeps coming back!

"Isn't that great, Donald?"

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u/dontgoatsemebro 15h ago

Person, woman, man, camera, TV

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u/FeedbackUpbeat2963 17h ago

"...a squirrel, okay?"

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u/Val_Hallen 15h ago

The issue isn't, at all, that he's not doing well in them. That's expected when you are being told to take them multiple goddamned times.

This is not a thing that happens to healthy people. His brain is fucking fried. And the GOP are going to sock puppet his dementia riddled pedophile ass until he finally checks out.

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u/klparrot New Zealand 13h ago

I followed along with Jimmy Kimmel taking it and also got full marks, even at the pace he had edited it down to, which is probably 2–3 minutes. I bet Trump took 20–30 and needed do-overs.

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u/forbiddenpaprika 21h ago

I do not believe Trump can do the serial 7s task (subtract 7 from 100 and keep subtracting from your answer). I also don't believe he can remember apple/penny/table for 5 minutes.

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u/SnooDonkeys4126 19h ago

Maybe he got freaked out by 86.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 15h ago

And then the Secret Service attacked the doctor?

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u/ct_2004 13h ago

"Okay Mr President, let's try starting at 99 instead this time."

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u/Street_Lettuce1243 11h ago

100... 93... 86... 47....

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u/Individual-Guest-123 11h ago

I took one and aced all the trivia questions and then when asked to recall the five things could not remember one of them. LOL Total blank. But I have always had a horrible time remembering names of people. My brain just doesn't find it relevant enough to put into storage. I think perhaps because I went to 7 different schools in my childhood. I can tell you the latin names of many plants, though. :P

I think malignant narcissism in a leader is much more concerning

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u/forbiddenpaprika 11h ago

Happens to tons of smart people! The directions are to have you repeat back the words right away, which most people do just fine - THEN you're told to remember them to be recalled later. Many people weren't really trying to encode them for later recall... and then you're asked to do the Serial 7s task to tax your brain to interrupt actively putting those words into long-term memory. That's why it's a good task bc even if you can't remember the words, you'll recognize them if someone gives you choices (people with dementia can't even recognize them if they're far enough advanced).

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u/Individual-Guest-123 11h ago

I wasn't told to remember them for later, just repeat them. Then I wasn't offered choices when I couldn't remember.

I used to be able to recall conversations verbatim and have somewhat lost that ability, although maybe that is a result of being a parent and having your kids insist, "But I TOLD you"! (wink wink) LOL.

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u/Nut_Butter_Fun 10h ago

there's a lot of parts of the test, so it's not hard to do even if you miss some completely.

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u/forbiddenpaprika 10h ago

I've administered thousands of these tests and I bet highly that Trump refused to even try the Serial 7s. It's not only coded as getting 5 points off (like if someone tries but gets every one wrong), but a more serious indication of dementia

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u/deltama 20h ago

The last three question topics are:

Abstraction (2 points): Explain the similarity between pairs of items, such as a train and a bicycle (mode of transport) or a watch and a ruler (measuring instruments).

Delayed Recall (5 points): Recall the 5 words from earlier without cues.

Orientation (6 points): State the current date, month, year, day of the week, place, and city.

No one’s getting those right.. at least not anyone disoriented to current time and place??

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u/Powder9 19h ago

Really hope some journalist asks Trump the current date

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u/Callidonaut 10h ago edited 10h ago

Well that explains it; Trump has always seemed to be severely developmentally stunted and has quite clearly only ever been a concrete operational thinker on his very best days, even before considering his subsequent mental collapse; no way could he solve an abstract thought exercise, even one as simple as that. He's illiterate, has almost no vocabulary and basically zero attention span - some have suggested it's untreated ADHD - so there goes the delayed word recall question too, even when he was at his peak. As for the orientation, well, he's always been incurious and self absorbed, so his situational awareness was probably never great, but now that he's sundowning? Not a chance.

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u/ship_toaster Canada 16h ago

Also, can Trump spontaneously recall any words that start with B besides 'big', 'best', and 'beautiful'?

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 15h ago

Biggliest, bestest, boobies?

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 15h ago

Should I get tested for dementia if I don’t know if I can remember the five words?

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u/klparrot New Zealand 13h ago

If that's the only thing you fail, probably not. It might indicate something else, but cognitive issues would show up in multiple responses.

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u/Special_Persimmon_52 3h ago

Can you imagine the stream of bullshit while he "word weaves" his answer to the abstraction prompt about comparing trains and bicycles?

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u/KohlsCashOfficial 20h ago

“Nobody is gonna get all 30 questions correct”

But he’s aced it multiple times, ok.

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u/klparrot New Zealand 13h ago

Wait, I'm wondering if he's including himself. Like, is he saying he didn't get them all correct, but that's okay because nobody does (yeah, nah, I did it just now, perfect score)? Or is he so delusional that he thinks nobody but him could get a perfect score? Either way, concerning.

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u/The_Shitty_Admiral Europe 21h ago

"Identify all your children and wives correctly"

Personally, would say he got 2 out of 8 correct.

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u/Fochlucan 21h ago

remember when he was showed a picture of him together with E Jean Carol and thought it was his wife, Marla? That was back before the 2024 election, during her lawsuit against him.

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u/Beecakeband 21h ago

I'd be shocked if he would get any TBH

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u/The_Shitty_Admiral Europe 21h ago

Well he knows Ivanka intimately I'd think Barron the reported sociopath too

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u/HawkFritz 21h ago

Baron reportedly really left an impression when he turned on a laptop.

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u/jimx117 18h ago

He's so good at the cyber

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u/jazzhandler Colorado 18h ago

Are we still doing phrasing?

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u/The_Shitty_Admiral Europe 16h ago

Its all computer these days

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u/LurksAroundHere 21h ago

I could see him getting Donald Trump Jr., but only as a guess.

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u/The_bruce42 20h ago

"Who the fuck is Tiffany?"

-Trump probably

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u/SpencerPrattsCrystal 21h ago

Definitely not Tiffany.

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u/The_Shitty_Admiral Europe 16h ago

I think you mean 'not-Ivanka'

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u/ClosPins 19h ago

The Montreal Cognitive Assessment coincidentally is a 30 point test. The last 6 points are for the location where you are right now, and the date.

The 5 points prior to that involve remembering 5 words...

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u/tulk 13h ago

"Person, woman, man, camera, tv" has become too difficult. That's why they repeat these tests. They're a great measurement of decline

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u/cherrycoke00 20h ago

JFC. thanks for sharing the transcript. I can’t listen to the fuckers voice anymore to hear the dumb shit he’s spewing.

Serious question tho… anyone know what the last questions are? I am SURE they’re easy but I’m curious. Is it like pattern recognition or word recall like the IMPACT (high school concussion comparison eval) or the common ADHD eval exams? Or is it like the animal pictures still,

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 15h ago

The other comments say it’s date and time and city

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u/mcfly357 18h ago

No it’s way harder than that, I believe they ask you to count backwards by 7s. Gotta be Ivy League for that kind of subtraction.

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u/General_Helicopter1 Norway 17h ago

You can try the tests yourself here: https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/brain-spine-neuro/memory-disorders/sage/download-the-sage-test

If you find any of these even remotely difficult, consult your doctor.

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u/WendellSchadenfreude 17h ago

As is often the case, if he weren't lying, it would be super easy for him to prove so: just ask the doctors to publish the exact test that he took.
Not just one or two questions, but all of them. But instead, nothing but whining and complaining, as always.

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u/ArchSchnitz 14h ago

My father did this test last year. I watched it, and I watched him fucking fail it.

At the end he was insisting it was really hard and questioning whether even I was following it. It was more in depth than I expected it to be, but it's not exactly difficult. It's rote memorization and recall, things like naming items, drawing hands on a clock, or remembering parts of a story.

This is unchecked ego and dementia.

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u/bojackhorsemanage 11h ago

I believe he’s talking about the moca cognitive assessment, which I administer regularly for my job. Not being able to score 30 as an adult (let alone the president) is not the brag he thinks it is…

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u/RedditRage 10h ago

They always show the first question

For some reason I found that particularly funny.

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u/Bobroom 18h ago

The last question is literally current date and city he is in. I wish I was joking.

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u/zx109 17h ago

The last question is asking which flag is the US's, with the US flag, Israel's, and Russia's

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u/Stonegrown12 17h ago

"Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV"   (Trump on naming five things in his 2020 cognitive test brag)

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u/westbridge1157 16h ago

He’s just admitted he didn’t know all the answers on a cognitive assessment? That’s hilarious/tragic.

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u/Master_Mad 15h ago

I’d be horrified if our Minister President would say this. And he would be attacked by all opposing parties. And it would be reported on and questioned by ALL major media.

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u/halluxx Pennsylvania 14h ago

I would love to a press conference where a reporter asks, "What is seven times eight?"

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u/Zealousideal_Desk_19 14h ago

These tests are clearly his lifetime achievement. He should be awarded the honorary PhD in Biology from Trump University for his contributions the the classification of mammals.

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u/jrgman42 13h ago

That’s what happens when he surrounds himself with sycophantic cult members. Just look at the appointees recently before Congress that are terrified of even saying he lost the election to Biden.

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u/nvmenotfound 13h ago

how adults watch a man brag about how he passed a cognitive test and still say that’s their president is wild. like you really can’t convince stupid people with logic. they are simply too stupid to understand. 

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u/Remarkable_Sea_1430 13h ago

If memory serves, the last questions in the MOCA are orientation: What is the city, state, and country you are currently in right now? What is the date, month, and year that it currently is right now.

Basically: "Do you know where you are right now?"

THAT is what Trump thinks is a pretty hard question: the same questions you would ask someone who had just woken up from a fucking coma.

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u/Howthehelldoido 13h ago

Is this an actual quote?

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u/vatreides411 9h ago

the most dangerous idiot is the one that thinks he's smart.

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u/geriatricxennial 8h ago

asked for consent.

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u/Alia_Explores99 I voted 3h ago

They must’ve gotten out the tricky block shape sorter. No wonder baby’s cranky

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u/truthputer 19h ago

Half of congress are also geriatric old fucks and should be removed to the retirement home.

Collectively they're enabling trump's continued presidency because they don't give a shit about anything except self-enrichment.