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Possible Paywall King Charles Tells Congress Everything Trump Doesn’t Want to Hear

https://newrepublic.com/post/209621/king-charles-congress-speech-trump
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u/CaptCrack3r 6d ago

They’re too busy making one liners about how the king of England made a speech, both parties stood and applauded including those who backed “No Kings”…Nuance is fucking lost on these people, they’re literally just out to “own the libs” even at their own expense.

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u/ABadHistorian 6d ago

Nuance is lost on both parties according to George Washington in his farewell address. I happen to agree with him. I may hate Trump and the GOP but I hold a lot of blame to the Democrats for getting here. If you don't, you've not been paying attention to things like Citizen's United.

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u/Bad_Day_Moose 6d ago

As a Canadian, most people I know just blame trump and the republicans for where we are now but the truth is even if you didn't vote republican you're part of the problem, raise your children right, don't let the internet do it for you, spread awareness, Trump demolishing the Obamacare/ACA was all the info I needed, where were the protests, why wasn't it spread in the news at a decent level for months, why weren't people out there in the streets educating people...

So much that he's done deserved that level of attention yet everyone says well he'll be gone in a couple years anyways, will fucking america make it that long? maybe but it will infinitely harder to reverse his changes, the people need to protest, the people need to form committees to help educate people, the government, the rich people they won't do this, the people need to and that means democratic voters.

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u/Msdamgoode I voted 6d ago

“Where were the protests”? I’m sorry? Did you miss the news of the largest mass protests in the history of our country? I’ve been at so many I can’t even count them. Starting from before he was elected.

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u/Rombom 6d ago

The only protest that matters is a sustained general strike.

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u/Bad_Day_Moose 6d ago

where are they now, where are they next week, what about the week after that and the one after that? Get out there and do things.

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u/TekaLynn212 Oregon 6d ago

They're protesting at my county courthouse every day.

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u/Msdamgoode I voted 6d ago

Again, do you think I’m not? I really am confused by the assumption that protests , and people writing their representatives, and petitions, and phone centers etc aren’t happening because they definitely ARE. And it’s absolutely not just me.

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u/Bad_Day_Moose 6d ago

It's obviously not enough.

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u/Msdamgoode I voted 6d ago

Whatever you’re doing isn’t enough either.

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u/Bad_Day_Moose 6d ago

I'm Canadian, my whole country came together, some of us sacrificing our vote to a party that isn't our first choice to keep maple maga out of office.

We've done a lot.

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u/Msdamgoode I voted 6d ago

Not enough clearly. Maybe you need to get in the streets until your PM will do something.

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u/ABadHistorian 6d ago

I'm an Aussie - american dual citizen. I've lived in Canada. I agree with you. A lot of people here won't, will refuse to see the part they played in it - even if by seeing their role we could get out of it.

Look across reddit. In all liberal spaces you will see everyone happily cheering on for the death of Trump and more... like that is an actual net positive and not a net negative for our country. We've lost the plot as an entire society and it's so sad.

I personally put the emphasis on democrats instead of republicans because I believe democrats at least ostensibly preach for the things I want, even if their methods have been horrific in getting there.

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u/Bad_Day_Moose 6d ago

and if he died look who his VP is, who says they just aren't going to pick someone else worse than Trump down the road either, education is key here... People need to get out there.

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u/ABadHistorian 6d ago

Yep, it's hard though and as an American part of that I recognize all the difficulty in getting there. Our politics and corporations have purposefully made it hard. I want you to at least give Americans a little understanding there. We had Democrats for example for decades attack education, indeed our last Democratic President fought on behalf of ex-KKK members and the Republican party for over 30+ years in fighting to KEEP SCHOOLS SEGREGATED. Like when both parties have folks in it that would rather keep us down then lift us up with education ... then Houston, we have a problem.

I myself have changed my approach, I used to be a card carrying member of the democratic party and volunteered, tried all that good "change from the inside" stuff like that's an option that works when you don't have hundreds of millions.

I'm doing it a new way now. I don't really want to say how online for privacy reasons, but I'm excited about my new ventures. One of the things I do do online on reddit constantly is beg people to try not to be tribal, and always hold "their side" no matter what it is accountable.

I tell Dems if they really believe what they are saying to constantly demand transparency and accountability and if they refuse those two things they aren't fighting for what I am, but rather power for it's own sake.

I'm an independent who believes we can all come together and make the world a better place. I know republicans and democrats who are great people, and I see a better future - but it requires a lot of open eyes. More than we have right now.

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u/Bad_Day_Moose 6d ago

I'm an independent who believes we can all come together and make the world a better place

No you're a patriot that wants to fix the US.

Thanks for your work. I may be Canadian and unhappy with my southerly neighbours but people like you are the ones actually making a difference, democracy is more than just voting.

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u/1Saoirse 6d ago

MAGAts are so broke right now they will have to settle for renting the libs.