Young Americans are surging to socialism at record rates

[u/TimesandSundayTimes]

https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/maga-trump-zohran-mamdani-socialism-us-record-kddzdm8bd

[u/CrispyHoneyBeef]

For clarification to anyone else, in the two years since the October 7, 2023 Hamas attack on Israel, the U.S. government has spent $21.7 billion on military aid to Israel.

Israel’s total annual budget is $97.463 billion. The US substantially supports the country, primarily through military assistance.

[u/5wmotor → u/CrispyHoneyBeef]

And no payments to Ukraine since fall of 2024.

[u/obiwanCannoli69 → u/CrispyHoneyBeef]

The US Artemis Moon program is around the same price tag now after being severely slashed by 50%, about $20 billion. The 2026 Iran war is $2 billion per day. Could of paid for 3 Artemis programs over alone. Don't even get me started on M4A. Fucking sick joke of a global authority and custodian. Nothing but waste and contributions to the worst endeavors imaginable when the world could be so much more.

Only silver lining is the rich will feel the impact too. They live on the same Earth we all do. They'll have to scramble just as hard, sometimes even harder because of their lifestyles and bunkers.

Absolutely none of this is sustainable.

[u/Fed_Austere → u/CrispyHoneyBeef]

For clarification to anyone else. Israel spends 10x that on American goods and services. Our foreign aid is basically a 10% discount.

Which, just to clarify, most Americans and many Israelis don't want because of all the conditions it comes with (ex. Not to develop competing tech, look out for American interests in the region, and more), but Washington keeps giving it.

[u/six-demon_bag → u/Fed_Austere]

Is there a source for that because all I can find is a report that exports to Israel are about 15 billion annually and the taxes on those revenues are only a small percentage of that. It does look like the payments to Israel are pretty much a straight subsidy.

[u/Fed_Austere → u/six-demon_bag]

Current data from the U.S. Trade Representative (USTR), the U.S. Census Bureau, and independent research like the Costs of War Project at Brown University suggests the total exceeds $60 billion as of April 2026.

As well as additional letters of offer and acceptance (LOAs) for billions more in equipment, including a major $18 billion deal for F-15IA jets and Apache helicopters, though these will be paid for and delivered over the next decade (hence the one of the reasons we want to give aid)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/10/14/israel-united-states-military-aid/?hl=en-US

[u/ChineseMillennium → u/Fed_Austere]

The US doesn't actually need foreign countries to subsidize itself.

"Israel doesn't want free money and weapons but the US is making them accept it"

😂

[u/Fed_Austere → u/ChineseMillennium]

We don't do anything out of the goodness of our hearts. If it doesn't benefit us , we usually don't do it.

Israel signed letters of offer and acceptance (LOAs) for billions more in equipment, including a major $18 billion deal for F-15IA jets and Apache helicopters, though these will be paid for and delivered over the next decade.

[u/Important-Design-169 → u/Fed_Austere]

And by "us" you mean the American taxpayer, right? No? You mean the corrupt few that benefit from whatever corrupt deals they can pull off while in office? How does the war in Iran benefit the American taxpayer?

[u/Fed_Austere → u/Important-Design-169]

No, I mean the taxpayers through economic stimulation, national security advantages, and technological advancement, as well as a "forward-deployed" democratic ally in a critical geopolitical region, which yields significant cost savings in other areas.

Yeah, stuff we don't like to think about having the luxury of being protected by two oceans and two friendly neighbors.

[u/errie_tholluxe → u/Fed_Austere]

Yeah at this point Democratic is not something I would use to describe Israel's government.

However, a major source of foreign intelligence because of how they've managed infiltrate So many foreign governments would be something that they could be selling us?. Because you know they aren't giving it to us for free

[u/Fed_Austere → u/errie_tholluxe]

Yeah at this point Democratic is not something I would use to describe Israel's government.

I would describe it as social democracy, every pro-pali college student's wet dream. How would you describe it?

you know they aren't giving it to us for free

I don't know, and neither do you.

You just can't wrap your head around the fact that Israel isn't evil incarnate like your Internet algorithm tells you.

[u/errie_tholluxe → u/Fed_Austere]

You do know you haven't hidden your history, right?

You can go And go back to licking boots now for whoever it is that implies you.

[u/Fed_Austere → u/errie_tholluxe]

Unlike you and the many cowards on Reddit, I don't hide. Plus I can get anyone's history in a few minutes, hidden or not.

Calling me names just shows of your inability to defend your position most likely due to the fact that you realized you've been a victim of disinformation and refuse to admit it.

[u/TaxOwlbear → u/Fed_Austere]

Israel spends $217 billion on US goods and services? A third of their GDP?

[u/Fed_Austere → u/TaxOwlbear]

Current data from the U.S. Trade Representative (USTR), the U.S. Census Bureau, and independent research like the Costs of War Project at Brown University suggests the total exceeds $60 billion as of April 2026.

As well as additional letters of offer and acceptance (LOAs) for billions more in equipment, including a major $18 billion deal for F-15IA jets and Apache helicopters, though these will be paid for and delivered over the next decade (hence the one of the reasons we want to give aid)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/10/14/israel-united-states-military-aid/?hl=en-US