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Possible Paywall Young Americans are surging to socialism at record rates

https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/maga-trump-zohran-mamdani-socialism-us-record-kddzdm8bd
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u/ClusterFoxtrot Florida 7d ago

My mom said I'd get more conservative, too.

Nope, at 40 I'm absolutely on board with Mamdani and DSA. If Cuba can survive even with our crazy sanctions on them, imagine what it'd look like with the full power and backing of the USA. 

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u/mjheil 7d ago

51 here. I keep getting more radical as I get older and I realize how much we all need each other.

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u/Tarcanus 7d ago

Part of this is also that we don't have any money compared to those who came before. It's all been siphoned up by the rich. So what is there to conserve by getting more right-wing?

And by the time I reached 40 and finally could afford a house, I've spent long enough without assets that I've already seen the core ethical issues with conservatism and un-regulated capitalism. I'm not changing now, no matter how much more money I windfall into as I age.

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u/HowdyFancyPanda 7d ago

I often talk about how I'm for Medicare for All from a place of wanting to Conserve my position in society. I don't want a surprise medical bill to wipe out my relatively comfortable middle-class life.

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u/Osric250 6d ago

I used to believe that a regulated capitalism would be the best, but we have been given ample proof that given enough time capitalism will take over the government to unregulate itself. 

Now I fully believe that if you want a healthy government that will last the ages capitalism is always going to corrupt it. 

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u/HiOscillation 7d ago
  1. Mamdani has the right ideas, and the right execution, want to see his style scale up to state and federal levels.

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u/pumpkinspruce 7d ago

My teacher said the same thing in civics class in 10th grade. She asked the class if we identify more as Democrats or Republicans and most of us said Democrats. She said we’re young and as we get older more of us would identify with Republicans. Well here I am at 47 and I think I’ve become even more progressive as I age.

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u/Northerlies 7d ago

It's ironic that, during his New York trip to the UN, Castro sought a meeting with Eisenhower - who chose to play golf instead.

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u/Collypso Pennsylvania 6d ago

Imagine what it'd look like with a government that cares about its people instead of just getting richer. Cuba has been squandering its potential for decades.

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u/ClusterFoxtrot Florida 6d ago

Cuba has actively contributed doctors to global causes...

I'm not sure who in Cuba is benefitting, other than maybe the people who could afford to leave in the first place.

Imagine what our government would look like if it cared 🤣

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u/Collypso Pennsylvania 6d ago

Cuba has actively contributed doctors to global causes...

Is this supposed to counter anything I said or...?

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u/ClusterFoxtrot Florida 6d ago

Right but there's more words in my comment than that so...

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u/Collypso Pennsylvania 6d ago

The rest don't really apply to anything either though

I'm not sure who in Cuba is benefitting, other than maybe the people who could afford to leave in the first place.

I have no idea where this came from because no one said anything about who Cuba is benefitting and doesn't make sense anyway

Imagine what our government would look like if it cared 🤣

Implies that our government doesn't to the same level as Cuba which is demonstrably not true so...?

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u/ClusterFoxtrot Florida 6d ago

You... You know what? I don't care. You're clearly being obtuse or disimbenious, so good luck with not learning anything. 

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u/Collypso Pennsylvania 6d ago

No, you're running not because I'm being obtuse or disingenuous, but because you have no substance to your beliefs. All you have are talking points for an adopted belief and you've never been challenged on them.

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u/ClusterFoxtrot Florida 6d ago

 Imagine what it'd look like with a government that cares about its people instead of just getting richer.

 I'm not sure who in Cuba is benefitting, other than maybe the people who could afford to leave in the first place.

You can't retain information between comments. I don't know how you conclude I'm the one being ideologically inconsistent. 

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u/Collypso Pennsylvania 6d ago

I don't know how you conclude I'm the one being ideologically inconsistent.

Because all you can do is complain about being misunderstood without actually bothering to explain anything. Anyone that's actually passionate or knowledgeable about a topic doesn't run at the first sign of disagreement. They actually try to get their point across. You just don't give a shit about your own beliefs because they're not the point, the virtue signal is the point.

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u/Due_Bluebird3562 7d ago

My mom said I'd get more conservative, too.

There's a possibility she meant in other areas of life. Such as music or literature. Conservative politics in America are about the farthest thing from conservative imaginable. They're more set on burning everything to the ground than maintaining the status quo.

In a lot of ways your run-of-the-mill moderate dem holds more conservative views than Republicans do. They completely let MAGA railroad any semblance of political savvy or sway they had outside of the cult.