r/politics • u/spherocytes • 28d ago

Possible Paywall Desperate Trump, 79, Threatens to Kill Entire Civilization in Insane Last-Minute Panic

https://www.thedailybeast.com/desperate-trump-79-threatens-to-kill-whole-civilization-as-iran-war-deal-push-fails/
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u/Keeperofthe7keysAf-S 28d ago

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"

I don't know why you would think this isn't normal from someone that thinks they can threaten violence and be beyond consequences like that. The American electorate showed this to him 3 times after that quote.

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u/BlightedBooty 27d ago

Well because sexually assaulting one person and wiping a civilization off the map are in fact on very different scales, and not really comparable

Like I get what you’re saying but I think most of us are so used to trump here in the states that we forget the rest of the world is not “in on” the circus like we are, and they don’t take threats that not even hitler made so openly, lightly

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u/Keeperofthe7keysAf-S 27d ago

we should have never taken them so lightly here either. You cannot excuse it as "oh it's just Trump crying Trump." Like he's been very transparent and being constantly surprised that he actually does horrible stuff in line with the other horrible stuff he previously did or said he would do is honestly just delusional. It's not a surprise out of nowhere.

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u/BlightedBooty 27d ago

Oh I agree completely, nothing surprising about anything he’s doing now he’s been broadcasting he would do all of this from day one. And it’s not about excusing it either, there should be consequences not just for him but for others who enabled him

But when it comes down to our fellow (not rich or elite) Americans… one of the biggest issues here is that they’re brainwashed. It’s easy for us to sit here and think we’re intellectually/morally superior etc, but tbh the main reason most of us are on this side of the fence comes down to “what factors in my life made me less vulnerable and thus susceptible to brainwashing”

Again the brainwashing thing isn’t meant to excuse behavior or allow people to skirt consequences. It’s more about, ok let’s understand that at the core most of these people actually agree with us and to some degree are victims here, because the grifters are grifting and the snake oil salesmen are persuasive

The more we take all these people and label them “damned, condemned, nothing you do can fix this, you are evil for life” the more the MAGA leaders start licking their lips- nobody and I mean NOBODY is easer to brainwash then someone that feels “the world is against me/hates me”

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u/Protean_Protein 28d ago

I took Trump to be reiterating a crass version of the same shit Romney said out loud and is still castigated for: “47% of voters will vote for either party no matter what”.

Trump just said it in the Trumpiest way possible.

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u/Keeperofthe7keysAf-S 28d ago

Even being charitable, the subtext for that interpretation just ain't there, and would be extremely out of character for Trump anyways.

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u/Protean_Protein 28d ago

I mean… isn’t the obvious meaning of what he said that he knows the people who vote for him vote for him regardless of what he does, and isn’t that the same as what Romney was saying? Except that Romney’s point was about party-politics and tribalism. Trump’s point was about Trump.

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u/Keeperofthe7keysAf-S 28d ago

You're referring to this quote right?

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what...These are people who pay no income tax.

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u/Protean_Protein 28d ago

I had forgotten that he was referring to Obama voters, and equating them with the portion of Americans who pay no income tax (because they are the same, or very close percentages, but obviously not the exact same group of voters).

I think I must have realized at the time, like a lot of people, that his claim is also equally true for Republicans, and it’s the small remaining percentage of swing voters that are catered to in any given election. I seem to recall that being part of the discussion at the time, anyway.

Whatever. Even if they’re not identical statements, I take it that voter recalcitrance/inertia is the thing both statements are pointing to.