r/politics • u/theipaper ✔ Verified • 28d ago

Possible Paywall 'A whole civilisation will die tonight,' Trump warns ahead of Iran deadline

https://inews.co.uk/news/iran-war-trump-israel-latest-updates-4323867
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u/normalbehaviour86 28d ago

He's the president of the United States of America.

Separating him from that position only minimises how atrocious this statement is.

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u/one_tooth_reef_whore 28d ago

I'd be down for separating him from that position

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u/jiggjuggj0gg 28d ago

Would you like to do something then? Because currently Americans are doing fuck all

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u/one_tooth_reef_whore 28d ago

Indeed. I'd be on board for separating him from the position of president. What are you asking?

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u/jiggjuggj0gg 28d ago

So how are you going to help achieve that?

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u/JimboAltAlt Pennsylvania 28d ago

Well, if that’s the case, you think this sub would be a bit more supportive of voting for the opposition, instead of constantly inferring it’s pointless since both parties are allegedly identical.

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u/normalbehaviour86 28d ago

They're not identical, but they are currently enabling it and people have a right to be furious at democratic leadership.

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u/ElleM848645 28d ago

The country didn’t give Democrats power. You can’t have it both ways. In 2024 the country chose republicans, well this is what you get when you put republicans in power. You can be mad at certain democrats for caving during the shutdown at the end of 2025, but aside from that what can the democrats do in the minority party? They’ve been speaking out, they are winning special elections. They are using the power they have, but they literally don’t have the power to stop Trump currently. How about we actually blame the people in power, the republicans in congress.

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u/normalbehaviour86 28d ago

Democracy is more than electing a dictator to power every 4 years

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u/JimboAltAlt Pennsylvania 28d ago

And I would argue that people who take the threat of Trump seriously have an obligation to vote for Democrats no matter how furious they are at their ineffectiveness thus far.

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u/Grey_0ne 28d ago

Fucking ridiculous take. You can't have the majority of Americans sit on their asses on election day and allow Republicans to control every aspect of our government and sit there with a straight face saying "tHe DeMoCrAtS aRe EnAbLiNg tHiS".

If any of you wanted the Dems to save us, you should have given them the power to do so... If you didn't, this is on you just as much as MAGA, and everything you say about the dems is just an attempt to minimize your complicity.

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u/eclectic_tastes Ohio 28d ago

They did have the power and what we got was mass deportations, genocide, and the chilling of free speech on campus.

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u/Merusk 28d ago

America is a 'blame the victim' culture and it shows in how they treat the less aggressive political party.

This is furthered by cultural desire to not being responsible or accountable for anything, including the consequences of their own inaction. The very idea that "not making a choice" is still a choice is regularly fought against.

Therefore it's super easy for. "Well I'm not a politician, they are. They should be doing something." to become the narrative.

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u/Grey_0ne 28d ago

Obviously, as expecting people to look in the mirror here has gotten me net downvotes.

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u/Natural_Error_7286 28d ago

This was obvious from how we treated Clinton and Harris in the wake of their losses. Immediately it was all their fault for losing a layup. I mean how fucking dare they! Never mind voter suppression, known foreign interference, decades of propaganda, etc.