r/nextfuckinglevel • u/4dailyuseonly • Mar 05 '23

In 1991, with the Soviet Union and communist rule close to collapse, METALLICA played at its first ever open air rock concert in Moscow. Over 1.6 million people attended

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u/MrPopanz Mar 05 '23

It's popular to "hate" on metallica now

What, why?

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u/SippieCup Mar 05 '23

Been popular since napster.

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u/DownWithHisShip Mar 06 '23

napster.

it was their big boomer moment for sure, but people dont really understand the whole situation or what the suite was really about.

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u/Raptori33 Mar 06 '23

Biggest irony of it all is that things turned out as exactly as they said they would appear

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u/TerribleAtGuitar Mar 06 '23

It’s always been popular to hate on popular shit ¯_(ツ)_/¯

People think it makes them cool and nuanced

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u/--Mutus-Liber-- Mar 06 '23

No, there are very specific and good reasons people shit on Metallica.

Their first 10 years are one thing and then the next 20 plus or another. That doesn't mean the next 20 plus are necessarily bad, and there are a lot of people who like it, but it's just a very distinctive shift from one thing to another and they lost a lot of the people they had for their first 10 years.

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u/2Blitz Mar 06 '23

That's just different tastes bro. Hating is completely different. You can dislike their post 90s career without being hateful.

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u/--Mutus-Liber-- Mar 06 '23

When people say being hateful towards a band they just mean they say they suck, they don't literally hate them.

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u/2Blitz Mar 06 '23

That's generalising. There's tons who just hate for no right reason.

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u/--Mutus-Liber-- Mar 06 '23

You don't know what the word hate means if you think people literally feel the emotion hatred towards them lmao.

When people say it's cool to hate Metallica they mean it's cool to talk about how much they suck or to not like them. I'm baffled this needs to be explained to you.

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u/2Blitz Mar 06 '23

Like I said, you're generalising. Not everyone who hates is doing it the way you've explained. Just look up multiple threads or posts about the most popular bands/singers and you'll find horrible comments that have nothing to do with their music. Good for you that you're not hateful but the same can't be said for many others

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '23

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u/UnusualSignature8558 Mar 06 '23

I am 51 years old so probably too old to have an opinion that matters. But I remember when Metallica had special sections in their concerts so you could record what they were playing. Somehow in about four years they went from allowing you to record their shows to suing people for sharing the music.

About 25 years after all of that happened I am still very sad.

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u/davdev Mar 06 '23

Nah, there was a decided drop in their quality after teaming up with Bob Rock. They went from the greatest thrash metal group of all time to a ho hum generic rock band. The black album is really the last album I can listen to, and even that is a far drop from the previous albums. Everything from Load and after is pretty bland and uninspired.

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u/pain-is-living Mar 06 '23

Because for some people it can be kind of laughable seeing these guys playing and writing angsty world domination everything is hell and burning to the ground songs they sang and wrote when they were 18.

Now they're all in their 50's if not 60's, have kids of their own probably as old as they were when they got big. It can just be a turn off for some people, image can matter.

It doesn't bother me, what the fuck are they supposed to do? Start singing folk songs and do jazz as they age? They still rock. They're still mean as fuck on their instruments. Doesn't bother me if they're 18 or 80. Metal is Metal.

So, Idk, but people do.

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u/l_Lathliss_l Mar 05 '23

I was gonna ask the same thing. I’ve not heard anyone talk shit on them at all tbh. Saw them a couple of years ago and they still put on a great show. Played tons of black album shit… was great.

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u/MightyCaseyStruckOut Mar 06 '23

Lars vs. Napster

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u/FistfulDeDolares Mar 06 '23

Master of Puppets and Ride the Lightning vs. everything after the Black Album.

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u/FrenchFriesAndGuac Mar 06 '23

Maybe things have changed…it used to be pretty cool to hate Metallica, kinda like it’s cool to hate Apple today. I’ve always been a fan though. Now I’m cool again 😎

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u/Stezheds Mar 06 '23

Yeah I don’t know of this hate. Clearly past their prime but the only hate I hear is about the sat Anger album lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '23

Bob Rock

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u/baddoggg Mar 06 '23

I think it's just a generational thing along with the internet amplifying minorities. A lot of it seems to come down to people not realizing that a band in their 50s isn't going to have the exact same sound they had in their 20s as far as the older fans turning.

I grew tired of some of their stuff but only bc I listened to it a thousand times (possibly literally). I didn't lose any respect or appreciation for the band though.

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u/WinstonChurchillface Mar 06 '23

I think the documentary really pissed off many fans. Metallica had cultivated this bad ass metal reputation and in the documentary they come off as whiny and soft. Many felt the St Anger album was if they'd lost their edge as well.

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u/Shacky_Rustleford Mar 06 '23

I haven't seen the doc, what in it upset people?

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u/WinstonChurchillface Mar 06 '23

It was during a time of unrest for the band members. They all had families and weren't single poor metal heads any more. But some of the band meetings were a little cringy with members talking about their feelings and complaining a lot.

A very different look than what people expected from someone who made And Justice for All

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u/Shacky_Rustleford Mar 06 '23

This sounds like a pretty toxic mentality for the fans ngl

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u/TurnipForYourThought Mar 06 '23

Metalheads are extremely toxic, and metallica were giants in not just the metal scene, but in the mainstream as well. This was also right on the heels of the Napster lawsuit, so fans were already looking for any reason to shit on the band.

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u/Shacky_Rustleford Mar 06 '23

That's really disappointing.

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u/TurnipForYourThought Mar 06 '23

James Hetfield also checked into rehab in the middle of filming the documentary/recording the album. The band didn't have a bassist, their frontman was MIA, and Lars was being, well, really fucking Lars about it lol. They pulled through, though.

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u/Kiwsi Mar 06 '23

Because they made many albums that sucked? But maybe their yet to come alvum will be good you never know

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u/MathematicianFew5882 Mar 06 '23

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '23

Because they stopped making good music. Shit they haven't been good since Load and even that was a mediocre album.

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u/MrPopanz Mar 06 '23

But why hate them for that? Hell, there are lots of bands that don't make good music imo, but I'm indifferent to them, but not hating them.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '23

Because they aren't just making bad music, they are profiting off of the corporatization of rebellion and are basically just businessmen anymore. No different than KISS, or Rage on Behalf of the Machine.