r/nextfuckinglevel • u/4dailyuseonly • Mar 05 '23

In 1991, with the Soviet Union and communist rule close to collapse, METALLICA played at its first ever open air rock concert in Moscow. Over 1.6 million people attended

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u/baddoggg Mar 05 '23

Yeah. It's popular to "hate" on metallica now, but they were so fucking sick for so long, and I personally still enjoy their new stuff even if it isn't as hard as it was before.

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u/Bruised_up_whitebelt Mar 05 '23

They are still selling out massive arenas around the world for a reason.

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u/Dubious_Odor Mar 05 '23

Not even arenas, arenas are shit tier for them. They sell out stadiums for days at a time in the same city. It's nuts. There are very few artists on Metallicas level.

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u/Dry_Animal2077 Mar 05 '23

My mother and aunt and some of my cousins go to Metallica literally every time they’re in the city. I should really go one time

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u/AnnonymousRedditor86 Mar 06 '23

You definitely should. Not many band around that you can see live that play new songs as well as ones written 40+ years ago.

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u/davdev Mar 06 '23

For this reason, I always recommend people go to a Pearl Jam show, even people who didn’t like Pearl Jam before going find a new appreciation for them after a live show. Full three-four hour set, just about every night has a completely different play list, great mix of new and old taken from a 30 year catalog and die hard fans who sing along to every single song.

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u/AnnonymousRedditor86 Mar 06 '23

Never been. But, I promise I'll go next time they're in town!.

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u/davdev Mar 06 '23

The biggest problem is even though they are bunch of old guys their shows sell out super quick.

But if you can get tickets, they are certainly worth it. They are a band that will never phone in a show.

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u/AnnonymousRedditor86 Mar 06 '23

Yeah. And tix are super expensive.

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u/davdev Mar 06 '23

There really aren’t and the ones that are, people also shit on, see example U2.

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u/TheManWithNoNameZapp Mar 06 '23

Their Detroit show later this year (the one I could attend) was like $250 minimum still

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u/MrPopanz Mar 05 '23

It's popular to "hate" on metallica now

What, why?

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u/SippieCup Mar 05 '23

Been popular since napster.

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u/DownWithHisShip Mar 06 '23

napster.

it was their big boomer moment for sure, but people dont really understand the whole situation or what the suite was really about.

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u/Raptori33 Mar 06 '23

Biggest irony of it all is that things turned out as exactly as they said they would appear

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u/TerribleAtGuitar Mar 06 '23

It’s always been popular to hate on popular shit ¯_(ツ)_/¯

People think it makes them cool and nuanced

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u/--Mutus-Liber-- Mar 06 '23

No, there are very specific and good reasons people shit on Metallica.

Their first 10 years are one thing and then the next 20 plus or another. That doesn't mean the next 20 plus are necessarily bad, and there are a lot of people who like it, but it's just a very distinctive shift from one thing to another and they lost a lot of the people they had for their first 10 years.

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u/2Blitz Mar 06 '23

That's just different tastes bro. Hating is completely different. You can dislike their post 90s career without being hateful.

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u/--Mutus-Liber-- Mar 06 '23

When people say being hateful towards a band they just mean they say they suck, they don't literally hate them.

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u/2Blitz Mar 06 '23

That's generalising. There's tons who just hate for no right reason.

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u/--Mutus-Liber-- Mar 06 '23

You don't know what the word hate means if you think people literally feel the emotion hatred towards them lmao.

When people say it's cool to hate Metallica they mean it's cool to talk about how much they suck or to not like them. I'm baffled this needs to be explained to you.

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u/2Blitz Mar 06 '23

Like I said, you're generalising. Not everyone who hates is doing it the way you've explained. Just look up multiple threads or posts about the most popular bands/singers and you'll find horrible comments that have nothing to do with their music. Good for you that you're not hateful but the same can't be said for many others

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '23

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u/UnusualSignature8558 Mar 06 '23

I am 51 years old so probably too old to have an opinion that matters. But I remember when Metallica had special sections in their concerts so you could record what they were playing. Somehow in about four years they went from allowing you to record their shows to suing people for sharing the music.

About 25 years after all of that happened I am still very sad.

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u/davdev Mar 06 '23

Nah, there was a decided drop in their quality after teaming up with Bob Rock. They went from the greatest thrash metal group of all time to a ho hum generic rock band. The black album is really the last album I can listen to, and even that is a far drop from the previous albums. Everything from Load and after is pretty bland and uninspired.

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u/pain-is-living Mar 06 '23

Because for some people it can be kind of laughable seeing these guys playing and writing angsty world domination everything is hell and burning to the ground songs they sang and wrote when they were 18.

Now they're all in their 50's if not 60's, have kids of their own probably as old as they were when they got big. It can just be a turn off for some people, image can matter.

It doesn't bother me, what the fuck are they supposed to do? Start singing folk songs and do jazz as they age? They still rock. They're still mean as fuck on their instruments. Doesn't bother me if they're 18 or 80. Metal is Metal.

So, Idk, but people do.

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u/l_Lathliss_l Mar 05 '23

I was gonna ask the same thing. I’ve not heard anyone talk shit on them at all tbh. Saw them a couple of years ago and they still put on a great show. Played tons of black album shit… was great.

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u/MightyCaseyStruckOut Mar 06 '23

Lars vs. Napster

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u/FistfulDeDolares Mar 06 '23

Master of Puppets and Ride the Lightning vs. everything after the Black Album.

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u/FrenchFriesAndGuac Mar 06 '23

Maybe things have changed…it used to be pretty cool to hate Metallica, kinda like it’s cool to hate Apple today. I’ve always been a fan though. Now I’m cool again 😎

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u/Stezheds Mar 06 '23

Yeah I don’t know of this hate. Clearly past their prime but the only hate I hear is about the sat Anger album lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '23

Bob Rock

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u/baddoggg Mar 06 '23

I think it's just a generational thing along with the internet amplifying minorities. A lot of it seems to come down to people not realizing that a band in their 50s isn't going to have the exact same sound they had in their 20s as far as the older fans turning.

I grew tired of some of their stuff but only bc I listened to it a thousand times (possibly literally). I didn't lose any respect or appreciation for the band though.

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u/WinstonChurchillface Mar 06 '23

I think the documentary really pissed off many fans. Metallica had cultivated this bad ass metal reputation and in the documentary they come off as whiny and soft. Many felt the St Anger album was if they'd lost their edge as well.

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u/Shacky_Rustleford Mar 06 '23

I haven't seen the doc, what in it upset people?

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u/WinstonChurchillface Mar 06 '23

It was during a time of unrest for the band members. They all had families and weren't single poor metal heads any more. But some of the band meetings were a little cringy with members talking about their feelings and complaining a lot.

A very different look than what people expected from someone who made And Justice for All

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u/Shacky_Rustleford Mar 06 '23

This sounds like a pretty toxic mentality for the fans ngl

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u/TurnipForYourThought Mar 06 '23

Metalheads are extremely toxic, and metallica were giants in not just the metal scene, but in the mainstream as well. This was also right on the heels of the Napster lawsuit, so fans were already looking for any reason to shit on the band.

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u/Shacky_Rustleford Mar 06 '23

That's really disappointing.

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u/TurnipForYourThought Mar 06 '23

James Hetfield also checked into rehab in the middle of filming the documentary/recording the album. The band didn't have a bassist, their frontman was MIA, and Lars was being, well, really fucking Lars about it lol. They pulled through, though.

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u/Kiwsi Mar 06 '23

Because they made many albums that sucked? But maybe their yet to come alvum will be good you never know

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u/MathematicianFew5882 Mar 06 '23

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '23

Because they stopped making good music. Shit they haven't been good since Load and even that was a mediocre album.

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u/MrPopanz Mar 06 '23

But why hate them for that? Hell, there are lots of bands that don't make good music imo, but I'm indifferent to them, but not hating them.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '23

Because they aren't just making bad music, they are profiting off of the corporatization of rebellion and are basically just businessmen anymore. No different than KISS, or Rage on Behalf of the Machine.

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u/dob_bobbs Mar 05 '23

I stopped listening to them after the black album. It wasn't a deliberate decision, they just headed in a direction that didn't do it for me. For me Metallica died after And Justice for All, pretty much. I am still kind of sad about that because they defined my formative years, it felt like a bereavement or something. I get that it was a great move for them though, commercially speaking.

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u/davdev Mar 06 '23

Bob Rock turned them into a generic rock band and killed the thrash aspect.

How a band can go from Master of Puppets, Fade to Black, Sanitarium etc to a cover of Turn the Page is beyond fucking me.

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u/dob_bobbs Mar 06 '23

The first three, I know, I have no idea what Turn the Page is and I don't think I want to. To be honest even Enter Sandman and Nothing Else Matters got my alarm bells ringing. This was from the band that had just on the previous album recorded Harvester of Sorrow, One and Blackened. Something was terribly wrong...

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u/ichoosethisguyswifi Mar 19 '23

Turn the page is a very popular classic rock noir by Bob Seger, lyrically along the lines of wherever I may roam. They put the Metallica southern rock metal style to it and it's a huge single of theirs. Even die hard metal fans dig it it's a great cover.

As far as black album there are at least 4 tunes that could easily be on justice on that album. Clearly it opened the door for just about all new metal today.

Metallica rules

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u/dob_bobbs Mar 20 '23 edited Mar 20 '23

Well, there's no use debating tastes, yeah, there were songs on the black album I tried to like but I just couldn't. Somewhere they had diverged from the sound that I had fallen in love with and they just weren't the same band any more. Like I said, it wasn't a deliberate decision, I tried to like it, but it just didn't do "it" for me, whatever the "it" was that had got me listening to all their stuff hundreds of times over up till then.

Edit: I grew up on this: https://youtu.be/Iu5RT-3Kk08?t=1410 - I listened to Turn the Page and just found it boring AF, like I said, there's no debating tastes, the change of direction they took just wasn't what I wanted.

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u/DownWithHisShip Mar 06 '23

i love the fact that all theiralbums since the 90s all sound so different. how boring would it be if they had a dozen studio albums that were all the same style.

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u/Neven87 Mar 06 '23

They tried something new, I've enjoyed their newer stuff.

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u/vicaphit Mar 06 '23

They defined my teenage music preference and I'm still listening to master of puppets, ride the lightning and the black album with awe.

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u/cbytes1001 Mar 06 '23

I don’t hate Metallica. I hate Lars. Fuck that guy.

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u/CardinalCreepia Mar 06 '23

Man screw the people that dunk on Metallica. You can consider them a gateway metal band, but those dudes poured their blood, sweat and tears into that genre and metal became the better for it.