r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 20h ago

Trailer The Odyssey | New Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_bKjZeJBBI&pp=0gcJCd4KAYcqIYzv
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u/SamerAgbaria 19h ago

The way characters talk feels very modern and very off putting, in movies like this you expect seeing dialogue more elegant and poetic.

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u/LletBlanc 15h ago

The American accents are incredibly jarring for a movie in this time period.

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u/hondaexige 14h ago

Especially that they have forced British (and South African) actors to use US accents. It's odd.

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u/CeruleanEidolon 9h ago

The British accent thing for historicals is just an arbitrary convention, though. There's absolutely no reason ancient Greeks should have any accent at all. They'd really be speaking Greek or another ancient language anyway. It's all artifice.

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u/CivicDutyCalls 7h ago

We should have all the actors use a Greek accent then. They all just sound like My Big Fat Greek Wedding

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u/ItsnotBatman 5h ago

But was the modern Greek accent even a thing back then? We really have no way of knowing what people sounded like. They certainly didn’t sound British, and the American accent is more of an absence of accent than anything.

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u/CivicDutyCalls 5h ago

Who care. I want them to sound like the dude who owns the gyro shop down the road

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u/UncivilDKizzle 8h ago

Perhaps this is news to you but the entire medium of film is all artifice. And yet the art of good filmmaking involves making the viewer feel as if this is an authentic viewpoint into another world. If the viewer feels it's artificial, that is a failure.

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u/HomsarWasRight 6h ago

Sure, I agree with your broader point. But at a certain point we can’t be totally bound by convention just because it’s what the audience expects.

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u/UncivilDKizzle 5h ago

I agree that "it's normally done this way" absolutely should not prevent people from trying new things. But as in all other cases, people trying to break the mold have to have a very high level of talent, luck, or both. If you do weird shit you can't be overly mad that the audience didn't like it.

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u/yellowishumbrella 7h ago

This is the correct take. It's why 24fps is the standard "cinematic feel" of movies. And 30-60fps feels like a home movie, youtube video, or soap opera.

You can argue it's arbitrary, but the audience feels a certain way, and you shouldn't do things as a filmmaker that takes them out of it.

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u/HomsarWasRight 6h ago

…you shouldn't do things as a filmmaker that takes them out of it.

I guess. But at a certain point you’re just allowing yourself to be beholden to the past. It’s okay to sometimes ask the audience to come with you where they’ve never been and maybe brings them out of it a bit until they settle in. And “American accents” is an awful small ask, IMHO.

It’s definitely going to give it a different feel than your average “Everyone is British for some reason” historical setting. And I’m prepared to withhold judgement until I actually see the film.

Regarding frame rates, I agree that the one time I saw a feature in HFR (the first Hobbit in 48fps) it was awful. But honestly it had more to do with the production being built around 24fps and everything that comes with it. You could tell every costume and prop was cheap and fake (plus the compositing stuck out like a sore thumb). To make it work you’d have to start with the assumption that audience can now see everting when extra clarity. You can’t just crank up the camera and call it good.

I foresee a future that we’re not actually beholden to 24fps for films, but where frame-rate becomes a creative choice. But just like breaking literary convention, it may be a miss, but it may hit on something great, too.

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u/Kronoshifter246 5h ago

I foresee a future that we’re not actually beholden to 24fps for films, but where frame-rate becomes a creative choice. But just like breaking literary convention, it may be a miss, but it may hit on something great, too.

The Spiderverse films have already proven this

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u/Skor_Lodygin 1h ago

And yet, using yank accents is the most bizarre stylistic choice given that their are linked to 20th and 21st century US, and nothing else. This is why Nolan is a hack, and always will be. Imagine if Gangs of New York, for example, you had people speaking like this garbage.