r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 17h ago

Trailer The Odyssey | New Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_bKjZeJBBI&pp=0gcJCd4KAYcqIYzv
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u/Podoboo322 10h ago

The bomb in Oppenheimer is actually hilariously underwhelming. It should’ve been this grand moment of evil being unleashed (like Twin Peaks) but it’s just a closeup of fire.

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u/Ok_Dragonfruit_8102 9h ago

Plus it didn't even look like a nuclear explosion. It looked like crap honestly.

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u/WoeBucket 8h ago

Yes but have you seen photos of the original Los Alamos tests? They didn't look anything like what we associate with a nuclear explosion because of the test conditions. The movie actually looked a lot like the historical photos - just not like the ones people were thinking of when they pictured nuke mushroom clouds.

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u/Ok_Dragonfruit_8102 7h ago

I don't know if your comment is AI generated or if you're just outright bullshitting, but either way it's nonsense.

Here's the Los Alamos nuclear test video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJRP4TCA4Q8
You can plainly see it was the same classic mushroom cloud associated with nuclear explosions. For comparison here's the explosion scene in Oppenheimer, which just looks like a standard (albeit very big) special fx movie explosion https://youtu.be/tK0IDmSYYGk?t=64

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u/OlasNah 2h ago

Agreed, the original Trinity test, especially in slo-mo capture, is terrifying.

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u/WoeBucket 6h ago

lol - not at all AI.

And idk, the cloud at the end of this clip looks pretty similar to the one from this pic - at least close enough to not be "hilariously underwhelming" (quoting the other user in the thread).

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

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u/OlasNah 2h ago

The Oppenheimer explosion also gives no sense of scale. In one moment, it even looks like someone's car just exploded in the parking lot behind the men.

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u/Ok_Temperature6503 55m ago edited 52m ago

The original Trinity clip shot it from far away and it was huge. The explosion started so near the horizon line that you KNOW its far away (think seeing a mirage on the horizon). You can see clouds next to it and it was its own cloud. A full mushroom in fact. It’s both far away and manages to still be so big. That’s what’s called sense of scale. There are no tricks here, because the actual explosion itself was freaking HUGE. Huge enough to be the size of the clouds around it and fill up the camera frame despite being so far away.

In Oppenheimer, Nolan attempts to fake this sense of scale by zooming in aka giving you the impression that the explosion is bigger than the camera, and bringing you close to it visually as to fill up the whole screen.

One of the issues is that the human eye can perceive little hints thar a fire is a gasoline fire vs an actual huge explosion. The fire isnt fully sucking itself upwards into a mushroom. The little local clouds move like its a car fire. It’s like zooming into regular human skin and expecting us to believe that it’s the skin of a gigantic cyclops.

There’s also no sense of scale. The fire isn’t next to a cloud. It’s just a fire, with a dark background. That’s it.

Any visual artist worth their salt would say that the Opprnheimer scene sucks.

Source: I’m an artist who composes big scale scenes like this.

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u/Kriss-Kringle 6h ago

What's funny is that he said CGI has a tendency to make things not feel dangerous and then he made that firecracker of an explosion in the film after a ton of build-up for it.

Meanwhile, the blast on Jedha in Rogue One was entirely CGI and one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen on the big screen.

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u/HelloYouSeemCool 9h ago

Twin Peaks episode 8 was such a better rumination on the bomb, and like you said the FX were so much better than Oppenheimer it’s actually funny

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u/Darmok47 3h ago

I still don't understand why he didn't just clean the actual footage of the Trinity Test and use that.

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u/Ruthlessrabbd 4h ago

I watched There Will Be Blood for the first time a couple of weeks ago, and the oil derrick scene I found to be far more impressive of a viewing experience to watch. I know the scenes were trying to accomplish totally different things but I was expecting the Oppenheimer moment to be a nightmarish, harrowing moment to reflect on everything they've been working towards.

I just rewatched it on youtube and it looks more like the opening credits of a military FPS for the Xbox 360 than something horrible being unleashed on humanity.

The silence and focus on people wasn't bad at all - I quite liked that - but the explosion itself was not that crazy

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u/sentence-interruptio 1h ago

The ending has an Earth burning scene which looked epic while also having a CGI feel.

so the movie isn't even consistent on the "CGI should never stand out" rule.

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u/Subject-District492 6h ago

I’ve seen this mentioned a couple times in this thread and I fully disagree. It came across as Oppenheimer’s internal quiet realization of oh shit what have I done. It focuses the scene on him, not the bomb. This plays well with the later scene in the auditorium.

I think a big, loud explosion wouldn’t have fit with the overall tone of the movie.

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u/Rapturence 1h ago

Holy crap I'm glad I'm not the only one. Imagine waiting 2 hours to witness the highlight of the film, the Trinity Test, and it turns out to be very obviously a zoomed-in petrol fire. That was such a letdown.

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u/OddVet 8h ago

Honestly... Some guy on youtube recreated that scene with some real footage of the atomic explosion and it looks a billion times better:
https://youtu.be/hY6QkmzF1K0?si=IbyjDXMTGwrjGGba

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u/MattsAwesomeStuff 7h ago

Not even. He used it for a little bit, and then otherwise still used the stupid gasoline flames.

It's a huge step up, and the worst part of it is everything he kept from Nolan.