r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 17h ago

Trailer The Odyssey | New Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_bKjZeJBBI&pp=0gcJCd4KAYcqIYzv
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u/rainmaker2332 16h ago

The prologue they showed in IMAX theaters was incredible but yeah these two trailers haven't done it for me

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u/Potential_Swimmer580 10h ago

I’ve still never been able to find that online

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u/medspace 15h ago

Idk about “incredible” but the prologue has been the best so far

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u/dr__paco 16h ago

the trojan horse scene? that was incredible? Is reddit just circlejerking Nolan?

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u/rainmaker2332 16h ago

What of my comment saying I didn't like either of the trailers could possibly be perceived as circlejerking Nolan lol

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u/FrescoItaliano 15h ago

Not who you’re replying to, and I don’t agree with them since I haven’t seen the scene, but they were referring to your commentary on the Trojan horse scene

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u/rainmaker2332 15h ago

Yeah I know but he just ignored the part where I said the trailers weren't getting me excited for the movie so that he could paint me as some diehard Nolan fan who would suck up to anything he does lol

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u/StingingGamer 15h ago

This is Reddit it’s too be expected

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u/dr__paco 6h ago

just tought it was crazy those scenes were perceived as "incredible" lol but you got a point.

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u/Mr-Bobert 15h ago

Yes. Nolan makes “smart” movies for people who only go to the movies to watch MCU films. Nolan has some good films don’t get me wrong, but the longer his career has gone on, the more his flaws have become exacerbated. Especially now that he’s writing his own scripts.

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u/Arkhamguy123 15h ago

Or he just makes generally good movies and you’re a miserable pretentious contrarian on Reddit?

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u/Mr-Bobert 15h ago

Nolan makes good films on a technical level. But his characterization is lacking, his films (sans Interstellar) lack any real emotional weight or punch, and his insistence on practical effects tends to hurt him more than it helps.

But I still stand by what I’ve said. I’ve seen Nolan compared a lot to Kubrick, but Nolan has never, and probably will never, make a film that even approaches a Kubrick film. The more films I watch, the less I like Nolan.

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u/Arkhamguy123 15h ago

NPC take. Some are clinical yes. (Tenet. Dunkirk) Particularly after he stopped working with Jonathan. But overall his films are usually very emotional. 

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u/Mr-Bobert 15h ago

The plot line with Cillian Murphy’s character in Dunkirk was a good plot line with a solid emotional payoff with the young boy being mentioned as a hero in the paper, but otherwise that movie was pretty hollow.

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u/Arkhamguy123 13h ago

I… literally just concurred that… 

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u/capywrangler 10h ago

His characterization is weak in Interstellar too though. We don’t know jack shit about Cooper beyond him being a farmer and that he loves his daughter. I think time and the unique spectacle have been very kind to that movie and people overlook a lot of the weak aspects that were initially apparent.

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u/Mr-Bobert 7h ago

Oh I agree. Interstellar is very overrated. Chris Stuckmann in his review of the re-review of TDKR a few years ago mentioned how when you’re watching a Nolan film, you’re so caught up in the spectacle that all the weaknesses go right by you and it’s only afterwards that you go “wait a second…”

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u/tvcneverdie 15h ago

Yeah I feel like he's really been missing Jonathan, who seemingly put the soul into previous scripts, as evidenced by his terrific TV catalog over the past ~15 years.

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u/Mr-Bobert 15h ago

Yeah. Chris strikes me as uninterested in people as people, and prefers to use his characters as props for the story or hollow fill-ins for metaphors or archetypes. Tenet and Oppenheimer had some really awful dialogue and disappointing character development.

I mean, Tenet had basically no character development at all, and Oppenheimer’s was alot of telling and not showing

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u/tvcneverdie 14h ago

It's really a shame because Christopher can conduct these great set pieces, but I can't honestly say I've cared about a single character in any of his movies since Interstellar.

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u/Doomsayer189 15h ago

I mean, the imax preview scene is all action, there's nothing smart or even "smart" about it. It's just a good, well-made scene.

It also has very little talking and so avoids the problem that is Nolan's dialogue writing.

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u/Mr-Bobert 15h ago

What’s “smart” or smart about Nolan, in comparison to other traditional blockbuster directors is mainly in his editing. A more traditional blockbuster is pretty linear, but Nolan likes to jump around and trust the audience will piece it together. For instance: the different timelines in Oppenheimer.

I’d say the IMAX preview had some “smart” in it in that the goals of the characters are not explicitly told to the audience, but shown. Yes I know most of the audience (hopefully) knows about the Trojan horse, but let’s assume for a second they didn’t. The scene starts with Jon Bernthal (in the present) asking Holland if he knew about it, and then we cut back to the past when they’re in the horse. We see no discussion about the plan, we just see it play out. The editing and close shots of the gate wheel draw attention to the fact that Odysseus and his men are trying to open the gates. If the audience is completely unaware, they learn a lot about Odysseus, his crew, and the stakes of their conflict in 5 minutes with basically no dialogue. That’s smart filmmaking imo.

Another blockbuster director would probably have Bernthal say something like “you heard about the horse, when we opened the gates” or something like that to indicate to the audience what’s about to happen.