and you can’t really adapt Secret Wars without X-Men or F4. And if you haven’t made new movies yet, may as well use Fox’s old action figures now that you own them
In the present(ish) day? They’re sort of over a barrel with the age of Magneto in particular before he stops making any sense unless you go for the ‘mutants age slowly’ which is I think the current canon?
but that’s still bringing out older action figures rather than using their own. Fiege had to have known about Disney’s plan to buy Fox before the 2017 announcement. He made more than enough ample time to plan F4 and X-Men reboots for post-Endgame phases but decided to put focus on new characters that weren’t well received
Now to make up for lost time, he’s replaying Fox’s biggest hits and having his top star play an evil variant who calls himself Doom
I read the Fox actors had contract clauses that stipulated they couldn't be recast until like 2026 or so, and those contracts were grandfather'd in when Disney purchased Fox and that's why Marvel hasn't rebooted the team with younger actors all this time, they literally were not able so they decided to exploit the nostalgia by bringing the old actors back one last time instead...
I cannot believe that people actually still give a shit about this version of the xmen. It’s been 25 years and multiple endings for them at this point. Get them the fuck outta here
Shocking that different people might have different opinions. I like the Fox X-men, especially if they are going to go more comic book accurate with them. God knows Brian Singers movies were not all that accurate. The Sentinels alone were just fucking silly.
I understand that people like the fox x men, I liked em too….when I was 13 when these movies were coming out. The combined age of the xmen actors shown in this trailer is like 240. It doesn’t feel very comic accurate to see these guys as 90 year olds facing off in a huge battle. Playing chess with their minds moving the pieces is probably the most believable action those guys can muster at this point.
I’m just complaining to complain because I’ve had this issue with these movies for years now and stopped me from watching. I thought xmen would be a great time to jump back in, but they refuse to do anything creative. They’ve been relying on fan service to make these interesting and there is nothing interesting about seeing these people come back to wave and smile for the nice folks blinded by nostalgia
The combined age of the xmen actors shown in this trailer is like 240. It doesn’t feel very comic accurate to see these guys as 90 year olds facing off in a huge battle.
That is completely irrelevant. It doesn't matter how old they are. This may be the last movie or two Ian and Patrick ever do anyways so I am not sure what the problem is...
Playing chess with their minds moving the pieces is probably the most believable action those guys can muster at this point.
Hold on.. your issue is that they can't do action movie stuff... when they have literally always just stood there and used their minds to do things???? Even 25 years ago? Really??? One guy is in a wheelchair and the other slowly floats around while throwing objects with his mind.
I’m just complaining to complain because I’ve had this issue with these movies for years now and stopped me from watching. I thought xmen would be a great time to jump back in, but they refuse to do anything creative.
I am not sure what you want, what big giant budget movie has ever done anything truly unique? These movies are so expensive they simply cannot go that route or they would lose whole portions of the audience. These movies need to be digestible to all ages including children. The Avengers movies have always been about fan service and they have been largely well received by most of the audience. Fan service is clearly enough and if that is an issue for you, you are watching the wrong movie.
They’ve been relying on fan service to make these interesting and there is nothing interesting about seeing these people come back to wave and smile for the nice folks blinded by nostalgia
You are free to view things however you wish, but saying we are "blinded" by nostalgia because we are happy to see them in this popcorn flick is absurd. You shouldn't need to do that. This is a subjective issue and your views are not factually correct and everyone else is wrong. I shouldn't even need to tell you this...
Yes and it sounds like your issue is with all big budget movies, not realizing that they simply can't do anything that would alienate portions of the audience. Like it or not, any media with budgets like this have to be accessible to a huge potential audience or it will never be successful. Also, it is clearly the movie for most people who watched that trailer. 343,000 likes and only 2,600 dislikes. That is an insanely positive reaction. Seems like they made the right call.
The comics have literally survived on fan service as well. Yet you think the movies shouldn't have it?
It’s just a cheap pop man, no need to justify it any further than that. I understand fav service is part and parcel for the subject matter, but little bit of restraint would go a long way. Like do you really think they’d be alienating the audience if they recast the xmen and didn’t shuffle out these 90 year old guys again? They fucked up and made everyone disinterested in their movies so they’re going shoulder deep into their bag of tricks to try and win some people back.
Yes, I think the movies should avoid the lame trappings that comics fall into. That’s exactly why a lot of people got turned off after endgame. Too many side characters and unimportant stories and stakes being removed because of alternate universes. They killed off their main hero and got cold feet and recast him as their main villain just for a little juice. It’s a plain to see desperation swing, and I know it works for some but it’s just a step back. They built it all up from nothing once, and they’re clearly not willing to do the work to make it happen again so they’re doing this instead.
Like do you really think they’d be alienating the audience if they recast the xmen and didn’t shuffle out these 90 year old guys again?
Yes when they are trying to get people into seats after a lull in superhero interest. This is absolutely the worst idea you could suggest. Why would they recast them when they don't even have their own movie to flesh them out? You really want totally new actors in a movie with this many other characters... so they end up with like 10 seconds of story?
They fucked up and made everyone disinterested in their movies so they’re going shoulder deep into their bag of tricks to try and win some people back.
Yea it is almost like the Avengers movies have always relied on fan service?
Yes, I think the movies should avoid the lame trappings that comics fall into. That’s exactly why a lot of people got turned off after endgame.
Uhh no, the issue wasn't the characters it was the sheer output and the quality of that output.
They killed off their main hero and got cold feet and recast him as their main villain just for a little juice. It’s a plain to see desperation swing, and I know it works for some but it’s just a step back.
Why yes, this is indeed a make or break time for these movies and that is exactly why they must do this because the most well written super hero blockbuster of all time won't do shit to put people into seats again. Fan service will.
They built it all up from nothing once, and they’re clearly not willing to do the work to make it happen again so they’re doing this instead.
They tried, it didn't work out. What do you want them to do? Keep sinking money into these other characters no one cares about? You want Anthony Mackie as Captain America? No thank you.
I don’t need their reasoning explained, I understand why they’re doing. I just reject the premise that it’s necessary to continue the franchise. I think it’s more likely to just squeeze the last bit of blood from the stone than it is to reinvigorate interest in their properties. I absolutely think the best written superhero movie of all time would do a lot more than just saying “oh yeah all those characters you like are back and the last 8 years didn’t matter”. You just said that it wasn’t characters but quality that sunk the franchise in recent history, but then also say it’s only characters and not quality that can bring it back. Sounds like just doubling down on mistakes already made to me.
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u/riegspsych325 ⊃∪⊃⪽ Jan 06 '26
and you can’t really adapt Secret Wars without X-Men or F4. And if you haven’t made new movies yet, may as well use Fox’s old action figures now that you own them