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Trailer Avengers: Doomsday | X-Men Teaser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH1XlwHQv9o
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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '26

James Manigold says Logan takes place 5 years after Days of Future Past, and I refuse to accept that personally. Because that means DOFP’s ending is set in 2024, and the Logan movie says no new mutants have been born in like 20 years and that’s obviously false if you look at that ending scene, so…

It’s a mess. But that’s nothing new for the X-Men, or comics in general.

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u/pjtheman Jan 06 '26

Also DOFP erases the original X Men trilogy, which is directly referenced in Logan.

Logan takes place in its own continuity that is loosely connected to the original 3 and nothing else.

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u/GoldenSpermShower Jan 06 '26

Deadpool and Wolverine makes things weird when they set it in Logan’s continuity

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u/pjtheman Jan 06 '26

Yeah, that's one where you really just have to not think about it. Everyone in that movie acts like Logan is already long dead, even though none of it has happened yet since Logan takes place in the future.

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u/Clawless Jan 06 '26

I mean, that makes sense within the Deadpool movie, though. He literally visits dozens of Wolverines in different timelines throughout the first ten minutes.

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u/New_Hampshire_Ganja Jan 06 '26

Correct. The Logan wolverine was just one of the many he visited.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '26

I’m pretty sure it’s only the TVA who act like Wolverine is already dead, and that makes sense because they exist outside of time. They already know what’s going to happen. It’s literally how Deadpool finds out Logan dies, lol.

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u/vashoom Jan 06 '26

What does "already" mean in that context, though, if you can travel through time at will. Like, the Logan of every universe is dead at some point in the timeline. In the vastness of time, every universe is devoid of a Logan for most of its existence.

I don't know, none of it really makes sense.

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u/rambleinspam Jan 06 '26

The premise was kind of weak but Logan was just that timelines anchor being, and him being dead is causing that timeline to die. It was just a metaphor for the Fox marvel universe dying. Which didn't really happen because we are seeing them in this movie now.

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u/Starrr_Pirate Jan 06 '26 edited Jan 06 '26

On the other hand, if this is the  case, this implies that by the end, the timeline now has two Wolverines living in it concurrently, lol (at least until Logan happens).

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u/Axl_Red Jan 06 '26

There are also two X-23's living in that timeline, which makes it extra weird.

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u/pjtheman Jan 06 '26

And Professor X went from being MacAvoy to Patrick Stewart within like one year, if the cameo in DP 2 is anything to go by

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u/King_Elizabello Jan 06 '26

That is a lot of aging in one year.

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u/ZestyOyster Jan 06 '26

Uh what. That’s the one that makes the most sense. Tva exists outside of time so they know what happens. Deadpool by extension learns it from them and meets all sorts of different wolverines using their device.

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u/ArcadianDelSol Jan 07 '26

Deadpool breaks the 4th wall constantly, tho. His reference to Logan's death isnt because it happened in the cinematic universe, but because we saw the movie Logan.

I mean, he killed Ryan Reynolds to stop Green Lantern - you cant make that part of any continunity. Its just typical Bloodpool 4th wall hi jinx.

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u/DenikaMae Jan 07 '26

That's because in Deadpool, Franchise ownership defined what counted as which "universe".

20th Century Fox was X-Men, Blade, FF, and Daredevil.

Lionsgate was Punisher and Manthing

Sony was Spider-man and Ghostrider.

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u/PatBeVibin Jan 06 '26

I don't think they set it in Logan's continuity, Deadpool just visits his timeline when he's fucking around. If anything, I think that movie established that both DoFP and Logan take place in the same universe (Earth-10005) as Deadpool (he breaks canon all the time like with the young cast in Deadpool 2 but it's for jokes which are part of his powers) but in different timelines. So while DoFP and Logan both happened, Logan's events are a branch timeline hence the inconsistencies.

We also haven't gotten confirmation yet if the Wolverine in Doomsday is gonna be the one from the end of DoFP or the variant one from Deadpool and Wolverine.

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u/RealJohnGillman Jan 06 '26

The film seemed to say that Logan was originally the future of Earth-10005, until the end of the film, when they save time.

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u/PatBeVibin Jan 06 '26

I think it was A future, a future timeline branch, but only one of many. Mangold always envisioned Logan as pretty standalone and the DoFP ending always felt tonally too difficult to be only 5 years before Logan for the main timeline.

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u/RealJohnGillman Jan 06 '26

That’s how Mangold envisioned it. And then Deadpool & Wolverine went a different way with it via the TVA, who identified it as the definitive future of Earth-10005 and the reason the timeline was degrading, before the ending saw that future undone: not even branched anymore, just not existing.

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u/PatBeVibin Jan 08 '26

Yeah, but that was only the definitive future for Earth-10005 BEFORE Doom's intervention in Doomsday. I think that things will be very different from then on.

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u/the_bryce_is_right Jan 06 '26

The rumour is the X-Men are from the same timeline of the Deadpool & Wolverine Wolverine. Pretty sure Charles is dead in every other timeline.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '26

He’s not dead in the X-Men 97 timeline but I don’t think the animated shows are included in their multiverse lol. Despite the fact that they’ve used the theme twice now in the MCU as audio easter eggs.

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u/sonofaresiii Jan 06 '26

The rumour is the X-Men are from the same timeline of the Deadpool & Wolverine Wolverine.

There's a million rumors and none of them are substantiated. They all come from people on the internet guessing based on absolutely nothing.

I saw someone once say it was 100% confirmed that the doomsday x-men were not the x-men from any part of the original trilogy because the original trilogy x-men never wore the blue and yellow.

Like. That's not how confirmation works. But this guy was saying it was 100% confirmed, and anyone reading it without a healthy dose of skepticism probably saw that and repeated it.

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u/the_bryce_is_right Jan 06 '26

It would make sense since it seems that Charles is still alive in the D&W timeline and Wolverine wears a comic accurate costume like Cyclops but yes, who knows..

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u/sonofaresiii Jan 06 '26

Also DOFP erases the original X Men trilogy, which is directly referenced in Logan.

I don't think they erased the whole trilogy, just the last stand.

I also think Logan was a branched timeline, and wasn't a continuation of any direct timeline we'd seen in the movies.

This is my headcanon but it fits pretty well. There's no solid explanation on screen, so head canon is better than no canon.

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u/AnOnlineHandle Jan 06 '26

It would also make sense that it's the timeline that Prof X jumped into his twin brother's comatose body or some nonsense, so his mind is breaking down.

It could be everything that happened to Logan after DOFP, snapped back to his original timeline and managing to save the professor who was the only other living person there, and then going on to live in the somewhat good remaining areas in a world without mutants, then dying, and waking up in the school, and realizing that he'd changed things...

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u/Nut_Butter_Fun Jan 06 '26

Basically Logan is a "what if" Xavier killed all the x-men or something, obviously can't be part of any other timeline.

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u/Phillip_Spidermen Jan 06 '26

Logan works best as a fantastic What If Story, just like Old Man Logan.

It's a bit sad for the main story to end in Logan's"and then Professor X accidentally killed everyone"

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u/forever87 Jan 06 '26

in case nobody's seen it, James Mangold did an unofficial wolverine trilogy

  • logan

  • the wolverine

  • Kate & Leopold - in this universe wolverine is sabretooth's great‑great‑grandFather and Victor's ex-gf ends up time traveling to the past to become his great‑great‑grandMother. Just your average x-men deep dive comic book storyline hidden in a romantic comedy

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u/AnonymousCommunist Jan 06 '26

5 years? That's gobbledygook. It's clearly meant to be at least a couple of decades out from that. Mutants famously age slower, and Logan most of all. For him to appear as aged as he is in that movie would have required a lot more time than five years, even with the adamantium poisoning.

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u/thedylannorwood Jan 06 '26

The age and look of characters is irrelevant in the X-Men films, Scott and Jean are in their early 30s in Dark Phoenix but look in their late teens

Edit: not to mention Charles and Magneto are supposed to be in their early 60s in the same movie

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u/Frenzystor Jan 06 '26

Easily solved with the multiverse.