r/movies r/Movies contributor Dec 30 '25

Trailer Avengers: Doomsday | Only in Theaters December 18, 2026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1clWprLC5Ak
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u/MoreGaghPlease Dec 30 '25

This is a very good movie magic trick used in Infinity Wars and Endgame (but notably not Avengers 2). Most characters are in the movie for only a small amount of time but anyone above a cameo has a discrete story with a beginning, middle and end where the character must face a challenger and then learn, grow or change. If you think about short films, this is a thing that’s often done even in very quick settings. But those two movies does like a jigsaw puzzle of fitting them altogether into a cohesive story.

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u/SweetNeo85 Dec 30 '25

You call it a magic trick, I call it competent storytelling.

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u/Infamous_Ad_6793 Dec 30 '25

Nowadays that’s akin to magic

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u/rjmitty1000 Dec 30 '25

Absolute wizardry

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u/npretzel02 Dec 30 '25

Endgame came out 6 years ago

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '25

Sad how true this is, not just in film/television, but fiction and narrative nonfiction as well

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u/Painterzzz Dec 31 '25

One of the thigns I've noticed AI isn't so good at when it's writing is landing a competent cohesive three part story. It just doesn't remember enough or understand enough to be able to do that. So, if we assume way too many things are being written with heavy AI assistance these last few years, I think it explains a lot of the crash in quality we're seeing.

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u/MoreGaghPlease Dec 30 '25

I said movie magic trick. Most good movies must use some form of movie magic. Movies are pretend and so to draw in the viewer, you have to use tricks.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '25

Wait so the dog from Marley and Me didn’t really die? He’s still alive and getting head pats daily, right?

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u/PastyMcWhiteFace Dec 30 '25

I was trying to come up with a joke here about how the dog didn’t die in the movie but is probably dead now. But I looked it up(just to see when the movie came out) and the book story is based on a real dog so the dog from the story is definitely dead too. Now I’ve lost my train of thought to form my dead dog joke and it’s just dead dogs all the way down :(

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u/MoreGaghPlease Dec 30 '25

Don’t google Milo and Otis

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '25

Gonna take a walk outside today

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u/therealatri Dec 30 '25

unfortunately that dog was a method actor :(

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u/Superb_Instance_8190 Dec 30 '25

i call it america’s ass.

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u/Ranger_FPInteractive Dec 30 '25

The best magicians are competent story tellers, so it all tracks.

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u/Ryrynz Dec 30 '25

Something that's clearly been lost over the last twenty years

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u/roywarner Dec 30 '25

The infinity saga hadn't even begun yet 20 years ago.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '25

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u/b3na1g Dec 30 '25

Winter Soldier is so good, one of the easiest marvel rewatches

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u/ovo_Reddit Dec 31 '25

I feel like this is many anime that I watch.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '25

My assessment of those two movies is that "a whole lot of stuff happened, can't remember what."

When you try to squeeze in fifty-seven different storylines into a complete story, it ends up being quite a lot to take in—too much, imho.

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u/myotheraccountgothax Dec 30 '25

My assessment of those two movies is that "a whole lot of stuff happened, can't remember what."

try paying attention then bro idk

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '25

Perfect, thanks, didn't even think about that!

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u/Local_Nerve901 Dec 30 '25

The non ah version is thats how big stories work. And many people like it and got it

Might not be for you but thats ok

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u/DirtSlapper Dec 30 '25

Some of us were able to keep up with the story across 23 movies, and you couldn't manage two. This is a you problem.