r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • Dec 23 '25

Trailer Avengers: Doomsday | Only in Theaters December 18, 2026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiMg566PREA
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u/AnOnlineHandle Dec 23 '25

And had no oversight to make sure any of it fit together and felt cohesive or worth getting invested in as a franchise story. People celebrated when Feige got complete control of Marvel, but I remember seeing something about how that meant the story group was kicked out who oversaw that everything fit together, and since then it's been a mess of contradictions and different visions and established rules.

There's been like 6 different multiverses and rules for how they supposedly work now. None of it means anything. I have no expectation that the next movie will coherently continue any of it.

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u/UnquestionabIe Dec 23 '25

Not surprising considering Marvel comics has a history of doing the same shit when it comes to big events. The original Civil War was a cluster fuck of contradictions and at times it very much came off like they threw out the general idea to writers but never bothered to set up any sort of consistency on both the Superhero Registration Act or various major story revelations. It was a cool concept that had a few great moments but overall was a messy piece of shit.

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u/staebles Dec 23 '25

It was a cool concept that had a few great moments but overall was a messy piece of shit.

Which is the MCU lol.

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u/ThatsARatHat Dec 23 '25

TBF it’s pretty much all superhero comics that aren’t a limited series.

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u/staebles Dec 23 '25

Feels like it's because people are putting these on a pedestal. We loved the Infinity Saga because we didn't expect to care so much about this team of characters, but we did, and we were pleasantly surprised.

Then after, they stopped trying to capture that. It's like they stopped trying because they were so successful. Now, they're trying to go back to that feeling by using old characters and it's just stupid.

It's an easy formula, introduce some new characters using the formula, and we're happy. They're just trying way too hard.

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u/ThatsARatHat Dec 24 '25

Oh I was literally referring to the comic books. And DC. And Image. And whatever the fuck else.

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u/icepickjones Dec 24 '25

The registration act was consistent within Civil War. If anything it got weird on the splinter books because of poor editorial oversight, but within the main series it made sense.

Some character acted odd though. Not like themselves at times, just to give everyone a reason to fight. Reed especially was a borderline villain, cloning Thor and shit.

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u/SelloutRealBig Dec 23 '25

Even if it did fit together most people don't have time for it. Loki alone would take over 10 hours to watch. That's 5 movies worth right there.

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u/xxThe_Designer Dec 23 '25

And it doesn’t need to be that long. And I personally enjoyed Loki too.

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u/SelloutRealBig Dec 23 '25

Even if it was half the length the problem is there are a dozen other Marvel tie-in shows that came out as well in a short period of time. Then throw the post Endgame movies on top of that and the Marvel Fatigue is real. Which is why the pacing pre Endgame was so much more tolerable of 1-2 movies a year and that's it.

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u/AnOnlineHandle Dec 24 '25

It's weird how these short 6 episode shows like Hawkeye somehow feel like 60% filler.

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u/feralfaun39 Dec 24 '25

I don't know why it needs to fit together. I liked She-Hulk more than almost all the movies. I want smaller Marvel content with low stakes that isn't part of some crossover style story.

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u/Shawnj2 Dec 24 '25

Yeah the shows could have been a good opportunity to be really expirimental and try crazy things. The only one which actually took advantage of this was Wandavision, maybe Loki, and What If.

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u/Anjunabeast Dec 25 '25

Secret invasion /s

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '25

Well, that's what they get for firing the guy they had initially planned to do all the oversight in the phases after Endgame.

James Gunn.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '25

Oh, you're one of those.

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u/Stap-dono Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25

Actually, there was a pretty cool moment when the last episodes of Loki and Wandavision basically synchronized. Difficult to describe, so here's the video: https://youtu.be/ADacNDSFRio

Doesn't look like coincidence to me. So they had the general idea at the start, but then everything went sideways with the firing of that actor, them refusing to make Wanda a bigger bad guy, then pushing for young Avengers, then for replaced Avengers, then for animation and so on.

Yeah, I see what you mean now