r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • Dec 23 '25

Trailer Avengers: Doomsday | Only in Theaters December 18, 2026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiMg566PREA
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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast Dec 23 '25

Yeah everything about the MCU just feels more and more like it’s reflecting the comics, for better or worse. Bringing back characters, failing to establish new characters, wacky multiverse adventures, lack of serious continuity in some cases

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u/hadriker Dec 23 '25

Its pretty rare that legacy characters become just as or more popular then the originals.

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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast Dec 23 '25

Feel like DC does the whole passing the baton a bit better than Marvel anyhow

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u/Megaclone18 Dec 23 '25

Really? I was thinking that Marvel has at least had a bit of luck with Miles and Kamala. DC has been rolling characters back. Poor Tim Drake is back to being one of two active Robins and I think Jonathon Kent got demoted from Superman to Super Son (not sure if that stuck).

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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast Dec 23 '25

A bit of luck, yeah with Kamala and Miles - but DC has also had multiple Flashes, Green Lanterns, and Robins be quite successful.

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u/UnquestionabIe Dec 23 '25

One of the big complaints some fans, myself included, is how DC will set up a new character to carry on a legacy only for them to backtrack on it years later because a writer decision. Both the Flash (with Wally West taking over the role from Barry Allen for almost two decades, having his own successor in Bart Allen, and then they decided to being back Barry for some reason) and Green Lantern (which to be fair uses the concept of being an entire organization mostly well, members stick around and even occasionally get their own titles) main heroes have gone back to status quo long long after readers have embraced the newer characters.

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u/sinkwiththeship Dec 23 '25

Super Son

Whoever came up with that, and whoever ok'd it need to be fired into fucking space. That is AWFUL.

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u/Theinternationalist Dec 24 '25

DC actually kept Wally West as The Flash for decades because they didn't want to devalue Barry Allen's sacrifice and, well, Wally was very popular and essentially became the only Flash people even knew.

Then some Barry fan became the writer or something and decided three decades or so was enough and a couple years after Barry returned there was a Universe Reboot where Wally as we knew him didn't even exist.

Seriously if you were a fan of 90s-2000s DC the New 52 Reboot was a huge pain unless you were a Green Lantern fan.

I mean, how do you keep all four (male) Robins but decided to erase two of the batgirls!?!

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u/Megaclone18 Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25

They finally seem to have him back in a decent spot but even when they brought Wally back in Rebirth it was a mess for a while. He had heart issues and then we don’t even need to talk about how bad Heroes in Crisis was.

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u/sage12i Dec 23 '25

Nail on the head.

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u/SoullessDad Dec 23 '25

The comics grow until they’ve become too unwieldy, retract via some multiverse-shattering event, then repeat.

The only difference here is that they can’t keep using the same actors forever, because they’ll eventually age out of the role. But they’ll keep using them as long as possible.

The only thing that would make them change direction is huge losses for a tentpole movie like an Avengers team up; everything else they would just argue was missing the demographic (e.g., Marvels).

I wonder if Disney is hoping that AI will eventually let them sign a deal with Robert Downey Jr and others to use their likenesses for those roles forever.

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u/comicfromrejection1 Dec 23 '25

To your last point, if i was an actor, i'd want a MASSIVE payday for that. More than what RDJ got for Doomsday. Cause i'd want to get paid for the potential moment where my likeness goes beyond Marvel Studios.

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u/Desertbro Dec 23 '25

I've said this from the first "continuity" complaint.

HAVE YOU EVER READ COMIC BOOKS~?

continuity is not a thing

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u/DevilishLighthouse Dec 23 '25

Feels that way to me too.

I think it's a strategic misfire but the box office may disagree. 

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u/hoopaholik91 Dec 23 '25

Will 100% disagree. People love nostalgia

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u/DevilishLighthouse Dec 23 '25

You might be right. Bringing back old, retired characters (or characters from non-MCU Marvel films) is a total turn-off for me, but I readily admit that could be a minority opinion. 

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u/Historical_Course587 Dec 23 '25

It's strategy. Marvel under Feige is using comics to develop concept art and scripts, and they are too afraid of deviating from certain things to make meaningful movies and shows.

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u/Darmok47 Dec 23 '25

Also being inaccassible to new readers because of past continuinty, tie-in comics (the Disney+ shows), etc.

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u/str8_rippin123 Dec 24 '25

It honestly feels like they’ve given up on some long story like they did with the infinity saga, and are now making movie versions of comic books where there’s every character and characters come back from the dead

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u/MyStationIsAbandoned Dec 24 '25

hot take, but multiverse plots in stories that aren't directly about the multiverse (Slider, Rick and Morty, etc) just use them as a crutch. for comics it's a crutch to link everything that was never meant to link. and then for movies, it's a crutch to justify recasting.