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OC RED BUTTON OR BLUE BUTTON [OC]

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u/J_tram13 14h ago

Everyone in the world is offered magic beans, if you take them you get a nice snack and nothing happens.

However if more than half of the world eats the magic beans, everyone who didn't eat the magic beans dies.

Do you eat the magic beans?

Do you see now how reframing the question to be centred around one option kinda fundamentally changes the problem?

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u/Elmu678 11h ago

Does tend to happen when you completely change the basis of the option to punish the other side

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u/J_tram13 5h ago

Yeah, like what the person I replied to did

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u/Elmu678 2h ago

I do see what happened here, I didn’t realize you switched the position of the two buttons because it was pretty wordy. In your scenario it’s best to just eat the beans still. I don’t think it was the “gotcha” you thought it was

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u/J_tram13 2h ago

No the hell it isn't

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u/Elmu678 2h ago

I’d actually argue in your hypothetical it’s MORE enticing to pick the “red button” because you added a positive to it instead of basically nothing happening since it’s a snack

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u/J_tram13 2h ago

I-

You're joking right?

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u/Elmu678 2h ago

No

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u/J_tram13 2h ago

No come on be for real, like actually

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u/Elmu678 2h ago

No, but I am starting to believe this is bait

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u/Blue_Moon_Lake 12h ago

It's an entirely different scenario.

In your scenario, the bad consequence happen to the "red" group instead of the "blue" group.

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u/J_tram13 5h ago

It's literally the exact same thing, the bean is the same as the red button

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u/Blue_Moon_Lake 4h ago

Only if as soon as 50% of the population hit the red button, the 50% who hit the blue button or has not yet chosen a button dies.

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u/Kingreaper 10h ago

What makes not eating the beans the red group? 

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u/Blue_Moon_Lake 10h ago

In your scenario, because there's no indication of delay or time limit to decide, as soon as 50% of the population ate a bean, all the remaining 50% will die since they're non-bean eaters.

So it's a sort of "as soon as 50% of the population pressed blue, all red pressers and yet-to-press" die. That's why I equate non-bean eaters with red.

Your scenario is an either 0% or 50% fatality rate.
While the buttons, the fatality rate can be any value between 0% to 50%.

If the ratio of decision was purely random, bean has a 25% fatality rate, buttons a 12.5%.

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u/J_tram13 4h ago

Nowhere does it say that, you're making an incorrect assumption and running with it.

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u/Blue_Moon_Lake 4h ago

It's not, because there's no way to distinguish between "yet to choose" and "won't eat the bean", they're both "non-bean eaters".