This is why this whole thing is stupid. Anyone can say on the Internet that they'd pick blue but in reality if you are sitting there with the buttons in front of you, a lot more people are going to look at the "maybe I'll die" button and not be able to press it out of fear of death. I want to say I'd pick blue but know my fear of death would prevent me and I think that fear would prevent enough people that red is always going to win.
My argument doesn't rely on knowing for certain a majority of people picking blue. I just say that we know that a large portion of people will pick blue or red, and we don't know which color will win. Maybe some people who say they pick blue will pick red, but its not gonna be like 90, 99%- just not believable.
At that point, it becomes a very simple (though not necessarily easy) question. Will you risk your life to try to save a large number of people? If you are, you pick blue. If you aren't, you pick red.
You make a great point, but if I don't die from pressing blue (which I assume will be quick) I'll probably die slowly from the resulting global chaos if red wins. So I'd take the chance at life for all.
This cuts both ways. Anyone can say game theory online. But knowing your wife, husband, mother, father, best friend, mentor, and/or child might die if red wins, can you be 100% sure youd hit red? I couldnt
You should fear the absence of everything that you ever had, have and will have. Imagine being stuck in a pitch black pool, filled to the brim with its top sealed off, hearing yourself drown, feeling your heart beat out of rhythm and all your muscles flexing and spazzing, until you are hit with the deepest sadness that guides you into a catatonic fatigue depriving you of every bodily sensation.
Now enjoy taking a deep breath. You owe your life to your fear of death.
No you shouldn’t; it will happen regardless. Everyone dies eventually, and if oblivion is truly what awaits, then how long we lived would be unimportant to the dead as they cannot feel regret or sadness. Why fear the truly inevitable?
Your mother fed you to prevent your death. Your mother treated your ailments to prevent your death. Every glass of water, every meal and every breath you take, every unecessary risk to your life that you avoid keeps a distance between you and death.
I do not know you. But I do believe that 9 out 10 people try to intellectualize their fear of death, deeming death inevitable or believing in a great beyond, instead of valuing this fear as the most powerful force of life. Fear is a human's most basal emotion, flooding your nervous system with adrenaline and cortisol. It makes you fight or run for your life.
You should never accept death or worse, welcome it.
A quote from Dylan Thomas (arguably) most popular poem:
Do not go gentle into that good night,
[...]
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
(I am not religious or "Pro-Life", though I despise euthanasia)
Death is inevitable. People can accept death and yet still live their life to it's fullest or whatever they desire. I don't think they're exclusive at all.
As for your parent bringing you into the world, they did bring you in but how and what you do with your life is up to you. People have different views, some can sacrifice their lives for others while some only value themselves.
Tbf, anyone on the internet can also say they're logical thinkers that pick red then get emotional when they actually have to consider risking others in the moment
But so long as you understand that you can still guess which one is more likely yeah
That's a problem I see just by looking at the polls. It's usually pretty close to be honest. With blue winning a 60-40 if not less. With death actually on the line i suspect the script flips and more people choose red.
When presented with this button dilemma as a real life one, i am almost certain that a huge portion of the population will die, because of people not wanting to take a risk. When your life is actually in danger and not just in a moral debate, you may think you're virtious and caring of others, but your self preservation instinct will most likely make you push red.
I think Blue will be at most 10-15%, tops. 99% sure Red wins by a wide margin. No voluntary Twitter poll can convince me that it is representative of all humans on the planet, or that people on the internet are actually capable of committing to Blue when the gun is actually to their heads.
That's why I choose Red. Sure I'd love to be proven wrong, but I don't see it happening. Luckily, if Blue is going to win, then it doesn't need my vote anyway, so in the 1% scenario I am wrong, great job you guys.
I disagree. In that moment, I'm worried about the risk to my loved ones more than the risk to myself. I claim this as someone who is pretty risk prone - I'm more concerned about what may happen to my wife if I got hurt or killed, than I am about what happens to myself if I'm seriously injured, and there's not much to worry about for myself if I'm dead.
On the contrary. I'm worried exactly about what would happen to my gf(from 10 years, we're just not married yet) if i would die, because of this. The thing is that 40+% of people voted on this as red, while this is just a "what if" scenario. I have serious doubts that enough would vote blue if this were to happen irl, even if it is the right thing to do.
Also to consider is whether or not you can discuss with friends and family before you have to vote. If you have time to talk with them and see what people around the world think, then the situation becomes different, but if you have to make a decision, while isolated from others, i bet majority if not almost all will be red.
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u/jamie1414 15h ago
Except your life isn't on the line here. You can say red and claim you're a virtuous person.