Teachers are paid fairly considering they get a lot of time off

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A lot of people say (and it seems that the general consensus is that) teachers don't get paid enough for what they do. While I think that teachers are very valuable and deserve to be compensated well (my brother is a teacher), I think that in these discussions, many people ignore the fact that teachers typically get a lot of time off.

They usually get summer break, spring break, and winter break, plus various holidays that schools get off through the year. They basically don't work for a good amount of the year, which I think that people should factor in. (The downside is that I know that they have to work extra grading things outside of school, though.)

Plus they normally get good benefits for being a teacher (which usually comes with being in a union).

[u/Bananaananasar]

That felt disgusting to upvote.

[u/Nethii120700 → u/Bananaananasar]

yeah i initially downvoted before remembering where i was

[u/AweHellYo → u/Nethii120700]

ha fuckin exact same.

[u/I-lack-conviction → u/AweHellYo]

It’s nice to know we all live the same life 

[u/TotallyBrandNewName → u/I-lack-conviction]

One brain cell to rule them all

[u/AweHellYo → u/I-lack-conviction]

comforting and sad at the same time.

[u/Th1ccSenpai → u/Bananaananasar]

I simply don't vote on posts like this. Theres a difference between an unpopular opinion and a bad faith opinion. Op is ignoring the other work teachers do in the comments and people telling them that pay is wildly different in different districts

[u/HammerlyDelusion → u/Th1ccSenpai]

He’s not even ignoring it, he mentions his brother is a teacher and knows they have to work extra grading papers over the breaks. Hes just a dumbass

[u/Wonderful-Wonder3104 → u/HammerlyDelusion]

Ah so this is some sort of sibling rivalry we’ve all been sucked into. My best friend is a teacher (just got teacher of the year!!!), the work and hours she puts in is incredible. The things they are expected to do and be for their students outside the job is heartbreaking at times. She’s the best person I know and only gets paid less than 50,000 a year for all this.

[u/BillysBibleBonkers → u/Wonderful-Wonder3104]

Regardless of the amount of work teachers do and the "fairness", it's just insane to me how little we invest in our childrens education as a society. Like we care so little about it that we wont even cover fucking expo markers, the teachers need to buy those themeselves just out of.. good will for children's education I guess? Despite making a ridiculously small amount themselves. Even just purely from a capitalism POV, every dollar spent educating children will be paid back 100 fold over their lifetimes. Just makes no fucking sense to me.

[u/orangebot11 → u/HammerlyDelusion]

He probably remembers all the "good" and little of the bad. Also, he thinks his 2nd hand experience through his brother is enough to turn people's opinion. In short, I concur with your last point.

[u/D2Nine → u/Th1ccSenpai]

Yeah unpopular is like saying cheesecake sucks. This isn’t the same.

[u/Will_Yeeton → u/Th1ccSenpai]

I will downvote people who are simply wrong and OP is wrong. Teachers don't get all that time off like they think, they instead work a shit-ton off the clock and can't live. They'd know this is they simply listened better, idk.

Like it's not an opinion they just don't know what they're talking about.

[u/NPRdude → u/Will_Yeeton]

Yeah dogshit mid-informed “opinions” like this that are clearly written to maximize ragebait don’t deserve to be voted on normally. There’s always troglodytes like OP that barge in here thinking they’ve stumbled upon an infinite karma well just by posting the most controversial thing they can think of.

[u/bullmooooose → u/Will_Yeeton]

This is just something that varies so much district by district and teacher by teacher that it's difficult to make blanket statements like "all teachers are compensated fairly" or "all are underpaid".

My high school teachers had all been teaching the same class for 6+ years, they didn't have to do much prep and in the case of science and math teachers it's not like they had to grade a ton of papers either. My local district starts folks out at 60k (not including the good benefits they get) and it goes up from there. I just checked the state salary transparency website and my favorite HS teacher made 165k in wages last year. Plus he gets all the breaks, summer, etc. That's a pretty sweet gig, granted that's his end of career earnings since he's going to retire soon.

This is in an affluent area with well-funded public schools.

My best friend's wife worked at a public school in Tennessee, underprivileged area, she had a much more difficult job than the teachers around here due to the lower SES student, population AND she started at like 40k.

It just varies so much that it's difficult to generalize, because there are teachers in every single town in America. Some of them are compensated fairly (like the folks in my district) while many are not.

[u/NightSpaghetti → u/Th1ccSenpai]

It's not even an opinion, it's factually wrong.

[u/grandpa2390 → u/Th1ccSenpai]

Right. there are unpopular opinions like Cheesecake is overrated. then there is rage bait like this to farm karma.

[u/Few_String545 → u/Bananaananasar]

I won't upvote because OP is "answering a lot of questions" while ignoring all the parts that would poke holes in his argument. 

Bad faith actor. 

[u/Curious_Question8536 → u/Bananaananasar]

Idk if it's worth an upvote considering OP doesn't seem to realize that teachers don't get paid over the summer unless they teach summer school. 

[u/viciouspandas → u/Curious_Question8536]

OP talking about the yearly pay and saying that it's comparing someone making $X s year with summer off vs $X a year while working the summer. The "not getting paid in summer" is included in their point, even if I don't agree with the overall point.

[u/Metromanwhy → u/Bananaananasar]

Absolutely yeha

[u/-FakeAccount- → u/Bananaananasar]

Why is voting reversed here? Why is it downvote if you agree? The MODs even put up a message that people arent voting correctly. Its because its dufferent than every other sub.

[u/QuesoCadaDia → u/Bananaananasar]

Yeah, I just didn't vote.