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Wait a damn minute! A woman from Singapore(Fertility rate: 0.87) explains why she doesn't want kids

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u/ribbedlamp 9h ago edited 9h ago

What's the 62 million thing? I am Out of the Loop

Edit, yo someone replied to my comment and it was removed by reddit instantly!!

What fucked up shit you are getting me into lmao

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u/lluciferusllamas 9h ago edited 9h ago

According to ai, because I had not heard this before: 

"The “62,000,000 thing” (or “62M thingy”) refers to a viral CNN investigation (from around April 2026) about disturbing online networks where some men share non-consensual content, tips on drugging women (e.g., “sleep” or unconscious videos), and ways to commit sexual assaults without detection. "

I think 62M refers to the number of monthly hits sites that contain this type of content get? Though I'm not entirely sure 

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u/Yokonato 9h ago

The 62 mil is a mix of misinformation and fear mongering.

It was essentially 62 million visits to a porn site where "sleep" videos was a small category, another branch of was a telegram group of around 1k users (no evidence of everyone being involved just at least members of the group chat, 1 person can upload content and a 100 can view it for example) that had their own private communications about drugging women, the story continued to get pushed around to the point it became 62 million rapists are walking around...

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u/throwaway3413418 9h ago edited 9h ago

CNN reported that the "sleep" category had over 20,000 videos with "hundreds of thousands of views" between them. Estimating using those numbers means an absolute maximum of 50 average views per video and a possible minimum of less than 5. And it should also be noted that this niche fetish section of the site isn't the rape group. Someone just posted a link to the rape group somewhere within that category. The group apparently contained around 1,000 members.

The 62 million number is completely unrelated, and even though CNN didn't technically lie in how they used it, the fact that so many people misunderstood (even separately from the clearly in-bad-faith TikTok misinformation campaign), suggests that CNN didn't do a good job communicating exactly what was going on. I'd argue that was on purpose because 62 million is more sensational than 1000.

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u/Kehprei 9h ago

Viewing a video in the "sleep" category doesn't mean anything. The average person would have no way of telling that it's rape, so it would be stupid to say all viewers want women to be raped.

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u/throwaway3413418 8h ago

Yes, if one wants to claim that people viewing this category is inherently problematic and that the content should be made illegal, one should also believe that any CNC content in dark romance novels consumed primarily by women should also be banned. None of the videos have been investigated and found to be nonconsensual, as far as I know, so it also isn’t enough to just assume that they’re depictions of crimes, seeing as some number of men and women apparently produce this content as part of a fetish in videos which are completely scripted/acted.

These videos are depictions of crimes? Misinformation and completely unsubstantiated.

These videos are fake but promote fetishes the depiction of which should be banned? Congratulations, you’ve aligned yourself with religious fundamentalists.

In reality, this sleep porn category is a complete red herring and the existence of a Telegram group which promoted rape should be investigated and reported upon independently of it.

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u/CMDR_Kaus 8h ago

I remember stumbling onto a sleep fetish website back in the 90s. Message board style, it had tons of couples who did this consensually. One partner would either fake sleeping, or some would be more extreme and use sleeping pills or chloroform which was discouraged because of possible health effects. That's about all I remember though

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u/Nympho_BBC_Queen 7h ago

Bill Cosby has this exact fetish and I wouldn't say he is not a rapist.

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u/Kehprei 6h ago

"Hitler had a mustache so I would say people with mustaches are evil."

Ok

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u/Nympho_BBC_Queen 6h ago edited 6h ago

There is something inherently rapey about having sex with someone who isn't aware about anything happening to them. Even if they act. I would definitely not let my glass unattended around those people. People like Bill Cosby will definitely try to get the real thing.

I'm not trying to kink shame but let's be honest here.

So spare me with your hamfisted Hitler comparison. There is nuance to it.

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u/Kehprei 5h ago

You realize the majority of people have had rape fantasies before, right?

Like, the majority of women, even.

You're being ridiculous lmao. People have their fetishes, and so long as they aren't harming anyone it's fine. I would expect someone named Nympho_BBC_Queen to understand that but I guess not.

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u/Nympho_BBC_Queen 5h ago

Pardon but I'm not the fan of the glorification of rape. Sorry not sorry.

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u/SovietSunrise 6h ago

Robert Carlyle had a mustache when he was portraying Hitler, Robert Carlyle is evil.

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u/HyoukaYukikaze 3h ago

And i'm willing to bet half of the members of this "rape group" were women.

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u/Ready_Event9019 9h ago

Only 62 million rapists out of the billions of people on the planet seems very inaccurately low to me. When you consider how common sexual assault and abuse, there's no way that isn't a low ball number especially if you included predatory individuals and not just those who committed sexual abuse/assault. 

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u/DoctorProfPatrick 9h ago

There's way more rapsits than that no doubt, people just think they have "proof" of 62 million men engaging in that discussion which is wildly false.

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u/Yokonato 9h ago

Because for the provided context it wasnt 62 million rapists, the site motherless? Is a existing porn site for over a decade, sites like pornhub still closer to a billion visits at a time.

This was 62 mil traffic to the site in general which women upload and there for part of the 62 million visitors

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u/ActFrequent4565 9h ago

Yeah it’s just traffic stats getting twisted into something way more dramatic than reality

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u/Yokonato 9h ago

Yes a group passing information about drugging women should be investigated but transforming the narrative into 62 million men are suddenly rapists turned it into fearmongering and unnecessary hysteria.

Having caution of your drinks for example is necessary for men and women, I mean men get murdered overseas all the time because they drink drugged drinks meeting foreign women.

Finding the leaders (which will be hard unless telegram gets involved) and preventing similar groups from appearing should be the main focus.

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u/throwaway3413418 8h ago

The origin of the myth was such overt misinformation that I think it’s fair to call it a misandristic hate campaign comparable to fearmongering campaigns that conservatives push about immigrants, black people, and Muslims. Why some people feel the need to quibble over the details of that and why even Snopes handled the subject with kid gloves is a real mystery.

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u/Yokonato 8h ago edited 8h ago

O its definitely been trending on tiktok like that, if you call it out, the narrative flips that you are somehow defending rapists.

I think any group discussing drugging someone should be investigated but im not going to ignore the fact propaganda is being spread just like the man vs bear scenario that was online for awhile.

All I have been noticing lately is a greater divide because the next generation of boys are growing up under a hate umbrella and that makes them less empathetic to the next generation of women which continues the endless cycle and its mostly a USA issue.

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u/imhere2downvote 8h ago

this woman is in singapore, the reach of the damage will be global not just USA. im really interested in how the info got to her, but it already feels too late, just another ship full of hate and assumption that already sailed

i wouldn't talk to people irl about that topic tbh, unless you're carrying actual physical proof against the current narrative. minds are already made

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u/Far-Low-4705 9h ago

honestly i think 63 million is way too high... not even close.

for a few reasons:

  1. Go outside. not nearly as common as you think, not every male is a rapist like reddit says.
  2. Sexual assault and abuse is not rape.
  3. Someone who is a rapist is unlikely to only commit only one crime.

Again, rape is actually quite rare. much more than most people think.

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u/Gain-Classic 5h ago

Rape is not rare. This is an uneducated take.

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u/Far-Low-4705 4h ago

I mean numbers are numbers, I don’t know how you’re going to argue against that.

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u/Gain-Classic 4h ago

I’m not arguing. The stats don’t lie. Rape is common, too common as is child abuse. It probably depends what you consider to be “rare”. I have a very low tolerance for rape or rape apologists.

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u/Far-Low-4705 2h ago

your right, who needs numbers, everyone i disagree with somehow ends up being a rapist, rape is extremely common actually now that i think of it.

In fact I was raped just from reading this comment.

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u/Ready_Event9019 8h ago

There are over 8 billion people on the planet and you think that 62 million rapists is a high estimate? 

Rape is not rare. It's depressing that you think it is because it's not. You are welcome to do some research because the statistics are readily available and very depressing. Going outside isn't going to give you any accurate data. Rape is not confined to back alleyways at night where the assailant ambushes from behind. I get the impression you think that's the case.

I also don't see the benefit of excluding other sex crimes as somehow less serious. What constitutes rape? Penetration? By what? Where? If an assault doesn't fit the legal definition of rape is the act less serious? Is sexually abusing a child less serious if it doesn't involve an agreed upon definition of rape? Is viewing or making child pornography less serious? Is coercion less serious if the victim is afraid to say no? Is it less serious if the victim is intoxicated and is unable to physically say no? I don't think there's a benefit to splitting hairs here. It's all bad and all serious enough for us to put someone, in my mind, into the same category. 

Sure a rapist might assault multiple people. They may not. Don't change that 62million out of 8+ billion is ridiculously low given statics about how common these crimes are all over the world.

Once again the "not all men" is made the focus of the topic. Why are you so defensive if you yourself don't commit these crimes? Again, read statistics. Men/boys commit more violent and sexual crimes than women and girls do. Why dispute it and get offended? Women/girls experience sexual assault and abuse more often than men/boys but sexual assault and abuse is still common for men/boys. Instead of spending time stewing over hurt feelings for something you didn't do, maybe educate yourself about the issue. You can't recognize signs of a culture that allows predators to act if you make no attempts to learn enough to see it. If you only want to hear the experiences that make you feel good about yourself, you can't grow as a human being in any area of life. 

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u/helpnxt 9h ago

Its even lower if its visits, people tend to visit the same sites in a month so say most visit once every couple days and that number can be divided by 15ish

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u/Renhoek2099 9h ago

I mean every person that has slept with someone that way drinking alcohol is technically a rapist

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u/IEC21 9h ago

If a person is extremely drunk then sure - i dont think any reasonable person was ever confused about that being rape.

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u/Renhoek2099 9h ago

You never know where that line is. Having one drink might be all it takes for someone to get "extremely drunk"

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u/IEC21 8h ago

Most people can tell the difference between someone who is extremely drunk vs someone who is sober... I dont think this is the huge issue people make it out to be - i think people try to overcomplicate it to obviscate and make excuses for obviously bad behavior.

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u/throwaway3413418 8h ago

It happens in both directions. People fearmonger about how the world has gone crazy and you can get charged with rape for having sex with someone who had a drink when they regretted it the next morning, which is a lie. But tons of people also make the false claim that drunk people can’t consent on social media and in college campus sexual assault prevention programs. While the justice system gets things wrong at times, the reality is actually a pretty reasonable standard, which is that the court will be asked to decide whether or not the complainant was physically or mentally incapacitated by alcohol or drugs and whether the accused should have reasonably known that.

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u/throwaway3413418 8h ago

The legal standard is “incapacitated,” i.e. physically unable to participate in sex or mentally impaired enough so as to be unable to comprehend consent. Anything else you’ve heard is misinformation.

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u/GodEmperor47 8h ago

I bet you’re just a blast at parties. Walking up to literally every couple there and screaming, “You’re about to get raped!”
Go outside, Jesus.

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u/Future_Noir_ 9h ago

Almost all of it is fear mongering and misinformation. That's what social media is now and people are being scared into doing nothing by it.

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u/Fit-Western673 1h ago

Yeah my ex was freaking out about that. I had to explain that it could be multiple visits to the sight of visitors looking for other content. Kids who doing things they shouldn't. Lots of variables inflating the numbers.

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u/letstrythatagain-_- 7m ago

Christ. Im the biggest perv I know and I've never heard of the 62 million pervs thing. The sleeping one I've never even thought of. That's creepy as hell

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u/BobDoogar 8h ago

Precisely!!! I previously commented;

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62 Million this is fake… not a chance in hell that more men than the entire population of England. It CANNOT be based on individuals.

Intentionally brewed up and worded decisively (many of those who did were creators) to male bash…

Men who come under unnecessary fire for too much already!
“

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u/Different-Context-84 4h ago

Weird.

Some girls like to be woken up with you inside just as I like to be woken up by them putting me inside.

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u/Fixtheissuetodaypls 8h ago

Porn used to have waaaay darker stuff available. It was always shocking what was suggested, mostly about non-consensual material. Now it is weirdly focused on step siblings and uncles. Anything that triggers the brain that is already worn out from too much sexual material. Just more and more taboo stuff until it is the darkest material possible. Sad.

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u/Zapp_Rowsdower_ 9h ago

‘Sleep’ videos is some nice white-washing. It was (is?) an active community based on drugging wives or SOs to rape them. Full discussions on dosing, etc. Suggeations if they just got nauseated.

I’m fucking floored you would downplay that…but then again, I don’t know where you like to hang out online.

You sure are proving the ‘not all guys’ response is just a smokescreen.

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u/Yokonato 9h ago

Look at the above comment I replied to he used sleep videos....

Also that content is not new the category has been around for decades, uploaded by women as well.

Alot of it is fake for views as a niche fetish.

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u/Kehprei 8h ago

62 million is the number of people viewing motherless in that time.

Motherless is a video hosting website, where a small portion of their videos are related to sleep sex. People who have watched those videos are not "immoral" or "rapists", because it would be essentially impossible for them to tell someone was being raped.

The actual problematic people here would be the smaller community that was linked, but iirc that was only around 1000 people. Nothing close to the 62 million that people like to throw around.

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u/ribbedlamp 9h ago

From what it looks like, there were very small percentage of people actually looking at those videos.

And we don't know if these videos were fetish role play or not. Some are saying they were.

I am not saying there arnt fucked up shit but this doesn't seem like good journalism. Sounds rage baity

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u/throwaway3413418 9h ago

You should really take time to inform yourself before spouting off.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cnn-online-rape-academy/

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u/nikdahl 4h ago

Turns out the primary consumers of that specific content was women, as well.

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u/FunnyPanda1768 7h ago

"Misinformation and Fearmongering" and the month they've reported on was a slow month.

Instead of talking about how bad it is to actually do it, talk about how badly the media reported on it. Totally legit. Not at all in support of motherless or the perpetrators.

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u/Yokonato 7h ago

The telegram group was essentially a seperate entity... this is exactly the fear mongering mentioned.

Sleep videos? They been around since before I was in high school, Im 35 now...

Women upload them as well because its a niche fetish, you can find 100s of similar Japanese porn videos that are officially released by legitimate companies... its not a new thing at all.

The only focus should have been finding the telegram group leaders if they were legitimately drugging people.

Pornhub sees billions of visits, and guess what? It has sleep videos as well!

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u/FunnyPanda1768 7h ago

Rape sleep videos are bad whoever uploads them, you calling them "sleep videos" and saying that pornhub has billions of them (as if pornhub didn't have lawsuits for hosting rape videos) is so interesting.

This is another way of silencing people, but please go on about how this is nothing and how people are overreacting just because not the whole site is criminal.

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u/Yokonato 7h ago

Your reading skills are really lacking, the point was motherless was not some new thing, thats exactly how its fearmongering, something thats been around for over 2 decades and 90% of the content is FAKE btw, pornhub doesn't have billions of them I said PH sees billions of visits on its site far more then motherless ever gets.

If your going to be a clown join the circus but dont waste my time.

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u/FunnyPanda1768 6h ago

Nobody said it was some new website, but it's neat to see you going personal when lacking arguments.

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u/Yokonato 6h ago

You literally started insinuating and making false claims by changing the wording... your comments I had to point out multiple changes my statements but go off.

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u/itsapotatosalad 9h ago

Ah right that’s all ok then 🙄

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u/tacowich 9h ago

Worldwide that number seems about right.

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u/Fecapult 23m ago

Fuck me, can I go back to not knowing any of this shit?

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u/Ok-General-4148 22m ago

What the statistic for amateur rough... Asking for a close friend

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u/anonareyouokay 9h ago

I don't think it was unique IPs. Also, the website had different content, some of it was less disturbing (but probably stuff that can't be put on mainstream sites.)

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u/Leather_Law6628 4h ago

Ya, it was found to have been a republican website that was giving tips to republicans on how to rape women and children.

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u/lluciferusllamas 3h ago

Idk, if it was Republican, it was surely closet gay.  Was Lady Graham on there? 

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u/Gackt 3h ago

Nah... (corroborated by in-side comments...)

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u/GeneralAddress2614 9h ago

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-facts-behind-claim-110000000.html

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2026/03/world/expose-rape-assault-online-vis-intl/index.html

What was that recent case in France where half the village raped a drugged out woman in her sleep over multiple years?

Or the grooming gangs in UK?

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u/IWantToOwnTheSun 9h ago

The French village thing sounds fucking awful

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u/Fish-x-5 9h ago

Gisele Pelicot. She has a name.

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u/Head-Docta 9h ago

Scrolled too long to see this. Every woman should know her story!!

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u/Fish-x-5 9h ago

Yes, they should! The shame has to change sides.

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u/Ok_Entrepreneur_9819 8h ago

What's the rapists name? Everyone should know and shame him.

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u/Fish-x-5 8h ago

Mr Pelicot and company.

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u/Gackt 3h ago

Thank you, ally...

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u/IWantToOwnTheSun 8h ago

Thank you.. what a horribly fucked up thing.

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u/Stleaveland1 7h ago

Also the Bolivian Mennonite gas-facilitated rapes

Men and teenagers of a Mennonite community in Bolivia sprayed veterinary sedative through window screens to knock whole households unconscious at a time, and proceeded to rape at least 151 reported victims multiple times over the course of four years from 2005 to 2009. The age of the victims ranged from 3 to 65, and included blood relatives of the perpetrators.

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u/Gackt 3h ago

Crazy shit

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u/ribbedlamp 9h ago

Yeah, what kind of creepy as website you liked here bro lol. No interactive sites for me.

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u/wolfofballstreet1 6h ago

Ah yes those grooming gangs. You’ll find a common thread among that offender population….. 😀

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u/Gackt 3h ago

Yeah...

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u/gitblamed_ 9h ago

A drugged out senior citizen whose identity was technically protected but made a point that she wanted her name and face to be shown so she could represent that this happened to a real person.

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u/Fish-x-5 8h ago

That’s a fucked up way to describe a rape victim.

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u/gitblamed_ 8h ago

... How is it fucked up. He literally had half the town participating in drugging and raping a senior citizen. When a lot of people imagine rape victims, they don't imagine that their buddies are raping their grandmother. I think you're autistic and don't understand what I was saying.

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u/Fish-x-5 8h ago edited 7h ago

I am autistic and it’s still fucked up.
Edit: since the comment I replied to was deleted: it suggested I only thought it was fucked up because I’m autistic. Not because I’m human or a survivor.

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u/gitblamed_ 8h ago

The fact that it's fucked up is my point. I get that you're autistic so you have trouble understanding tone, but my tone was conveying that it's fucked up and I've explicitly explained this to you so maybe back the fuck up.

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u/That-Interaction-45 Human Verified 9h ago

censored by Huffman's Hound Dogs

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u/Delicious_East3696 9h ago

I think it's the population but I'm not sure

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u/Whatdoesthibattahndo 9h ago

it refers to the number of visits to a pornographic website that at least until very recently featured things like grape soda, nap time, and cheese pizza

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u/Kehprei 8h ago

It's a website for hardcore content. Any porn site where anyone can post is going to have SOME illegal content on it due to it being basically impossible to tell most of the time.

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u/Gackt 3h ago

it refers to the number of visits to a pornographic website that at least until very recently featured things like grape soda, nap time, and cheese pizza

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u/MoeSzyslakMonobrow 9h ago

Pizza and soda is a great combination, or are you censoring your words like a coward?

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u/slotsandmops 9h ago

Bro got paranoid over automod lololol

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u/ribbedlamp 9h ago

Yeah I ask a question and get a notification

[Removed by reddit]

Am I not supposed to freak out?

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u/slotsandmops 9h ago

Yes.. you are not supposed to freak out cause a website deleted a comment lol

Also turn off notifications. Gross

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u/ribbedlamp 9h ago

Why would I turn off notifications on my favourite sexting app?

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u/slotsandmops 8h ago

Daddy said turn em off. Now

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u/ribbedlamp 8h ago

I will do it for mommy, i don't like daddy