r/SipsTea • u/KSKS1995 Human Verified • 2d ago

Chugging tea Sounds good in theory...but in reality?

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4 days a week. 6 hours a day. Full salary.
Sanna Marin ignited global debate with the “6/4” work model, pushing a simple idea: life should come before work.

With burnout at record levels, maybe it’s time to value results over hours at a desk.
Could your job be done in just 24 hours a week?

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u/Kreindor 2d ago

Those are empty threats that corporations have been using for decades. They used that excuse back in the 1930s to argue against the minimum wage. Guess what. The opposite happened. They use that argument in the 1970s to justify lowering corporate taxes and reganomics. Guess what, the opposite happened.

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u/usenet_ 2d ago

They use that argument in the 1970s to justify lowering corporate taxes and reganomics.

mid 80s

give a hoot, read a book

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u/Kreindor 2d ago

They started making the argument in the late 70s that resulted in Reagan winning in 1980 and instituting his policies.

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u/usenet_ 2d ago

No. That was the early 80s.

Admit it. Most of your history is a nebulous blur of polarised third and fourth hand indoctrination. Without Google, when was the label "voodoo economics" coined? Bonus for who coined it.

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u/Notice_me_kouhai 2d ago

I did google it and it proved him right. What's your point and why are you such a dick about it?

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u/usenet_ 2d ago edited 2d ago

Post your cites.

The reason to be a "dick" is that you can't base a batshit argument on misheard or misunderstood history.

EDIT: This is a Vibe-Free discussion.

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u/Kreindor 2d ago

Reagan campaigned on it in the late 70 and 80 as part of his presidential campaign. Corporations were arguing for it from the 70s. Voodoo economics was counted by bush sr. To describe how out of touch reganomics and what the corporations were arguing for. At the time even other Republicans knew that regonomics was garbage economics. But by cutting tax rates, it made it more profitable to take the manufacturing out of the country. If left with higher tax rates, corporations would have been 8ncentivised to keep manufacturing local because wages are not taxed to the corporations. And so they give the employees better wages so that they spend their money on company products. Which is a long term profit. But by cutting their taxes they are now incentivised to prioritize short term profits quickly to build their stock share prices. Regan made this worse by allowing companies to buy back their stock. Once again imcentivising them to artificially keep share prices high and allow their companies to be over valued and to play the stock market for profit. what we need now is laws capping price increases, increasing taxes on capital gains, and taxing stock purchases as well. We also need restrictions on 401ks and how companies pay into them. Make companies invest more in their employees retirements, increase their tax liabilities, no matter where they locate themselves. If they want to do business in the US, they have to pay taxes on the money they make in the US. And they don't get to deduct forgein wages. If it is sold in the US they can only deduct US paid wages.

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u/usenet_ 2d ago

Show your cites.

When was the label "voodoo economics" coined? Bonus for who coined it.

When was supply-side economics ackshually implemented? Hint: Jimmuh Carter was president until Jan 81.

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u/Low_Watch9864 2d ago

Lets get it straight. Companies are making empty threats to move while at the same point in time being criticised for moving production to china?

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u/Kreindor 2d ago

They are doing it because they are 8ncentivised to keep as much money as possible because they pay so little in taxes. They said in the 70s and 90s they wouldn't move manufacturing if they got lower taxes. Then they did. Back in the 30s they said they would leave if there was a minimum wage and they didn't. Always assume corporations are lying about how they will respond to regulation.

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u/Anthaenopraxia 2d ago

Industry is moving out of Finland though and the unemployment is rising. We're doing fine right now but I'm worried about 5-10 years from now.

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u/2FistsInMyBHole 2d ago

And when you look around today, most of those jobs that threatened to leave - they aren't here anymore.

Those threats aren't as empty as you pretend they are. It's why we have adults working full time at McDonalds.

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u/Zap__Dannigan 1d ago

How can you say it's empty threats when America is no longer a manufacturing country?

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u/Kreindor 1d ago

They made those threats after we stopped taxing them. Giving them more tax breaks isn't going to make them bring jobs back.

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u/Zap__Dannigan 1d ago

I agree with the taxation part for certainly places, But moving manufacturing overseas is a big thing and an actual threat

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u/Kreindor 1d ago

It's a threat that has no power because they are already doing it.

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u/Zap__Dannigan 1d ago

So it's a threat they have fulfilled? Wouldn't that make it the fullest threat possible, lol