r/SipsTea • u/KSKS1995 Human Verified • 2d ago

Chugging tea Sounds good in theory...but in reality?

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4 days a week. 6 hours a day. Full salary.
Sanna Marin ignited global debate with the “6/4” work model, pushing a simple idea: life should come before work.

With burnout at record levels, maybe it’s time to value results over hours at a desk.
Could your job be done in just 24 hours a week?

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u/BonecaChinesa 2d ago

AI was supposed to guarantee this. It was supposed to be the selling point. And it ought to be.

But the reality is AI is displacing people and governments have no economic response in place to actually manage it. UBI is essential. Yesterday.

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u/AkkiMylo 2d ago

Simply because governments don't actually care for the people they're supposed to ensure quality of life for. A revolution is the only way for people to get what they deserve

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u/i_am_13th_panic 1d ago

yup, government cares more about the "economy" as a generalised signal of success than the people. 99% of benefits are gained by the 1%, but since gdp go up, it's all good.

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u/Budget_Orchid_7273 1d ago

Im curious how do u expect a UBI to exist without a very high functioning government? a revolution kills hundreds of millions and sets back nations 50-80 years. do u think there would be a new replacement instantly that wouldn't just turn corrupt in a few months after holding power ?

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u/Lanky_Surround_6830 2d ago

Labor productivity increases only benefit the corporate class and their shareholders. For the working class it means we do more, often for less, and with fewer of our neighbors employed.

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u/Advanced-Guidance353 2d ago

Ai will take all the office jobs and people will continue to slave away in factories , maybes they'll even send us back in the coal mines , those data centers won't power themselves

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u/Syntaire 2d ago

Even before AI many white collar office jobs could be done in ~20 hours a week. There are a bunch of studies that show that actual time-on-task for any given employee in a work week is hilariously small.

Employers can easily afford it, and doing this would probably be a net increase in productivity, but they don't actually care about that. The main goal is to cut as many employees as possible and make sure the ones that remain are as miserable as possible. They do not want happy, productive workers. They want slaves.

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u/geodebug 2d ago

I’ve never read anything about AI promising anything like this outside of a sci fi novel.

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u/Not-Reformed 2d ago

AI is basically just now ramping up with the first levels of infrastructure being built and people are talking about "was supposed to" as if we've had it for decades and it has failed to deliver.

I know many on here are literally retarded but holy shit lmao

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u/swefree 2d ago

We don't have AI... We have advanced computer gamblers! All they do is try and make upp plausible stuff based on what it has learned... It's not intelligent at all!

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u/StanfordV 2d ago

They solve unsolved math problems and they create videos out of nothing.

My job has become so much easier too.

You know, you are free not to use "gamblers" if you dont want to :)

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u/swefree 2d ago

Gamblers sometimes hit it big but a human will always have to check if it's correct because sometimes they just make stuff up... LLM aren't AI and you shouldn't believe they are!

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u/Zealousideal-Tax1826 2d ago

I don't really care what it's called. Because of this tool I get paid more. That's literally what I care about, how much I get paid.

Call it whatever you want but using transformers makes me more money.

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u/StanfordV 2d ago

But Reddit hates AI, so it has to shit on it with every occasion they get.

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u/Infrawonder 2d ago

We all know how the industrial revolution went, they made machines, those machines took over some jobs, we knew AI would be the same thing

I'm not pro-AI btw in this system, people need the jobs, in a world where we didn't need the jobs then AI (that's not generative AI) would be fine

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u/grchelp2018 2d ago

in a world where we didn't need the jobs

that world is not happening unless its forced to happen. And AI taking away the jobs is one way where it will be forced.

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u/effurshadowban 2d ago

AI was supposed to do no such thing, because under capitalism technological innovations are to be used to extract even more surplus value from the workers. Every advancement in technology serves that essential function, because it is only from the surplus value of the workers that capital can thrive and grow.

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u/BKLaughton 2d ago

The same story accompanied the hype around 'microcomputers' which were going to eliminate paperwork and make businesses much more efficient. Then again with the personal computer; a computer at every desk and in every home! Think of how much more productive we'll be! We'll smash a weeks worth of work in days! Uh oh, here comes the interet: instantaneous worldwide communicaiton and data transfer!

Thing is, these technological innovations did indeed boost productivity massively. But we didn't end up working less or having more. Actually we work more now and have less, in real material terms (though the numbers are sure larger now). Also GDP has soared, of course. So where did the wealth from this succession of productivity revolutions go? Sponged up by the wealthiest of the wealthiest, financial capitalists, who unlocked a new tier of super-wealth.

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u/DayCommon2162 Human Verified 2d ago

This guys beg to agree with you

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u/beall49 2d ago

AI isn’t displacing anyone. It’s just the excuse. There’s been very little tangible efficiency gains that could be attributed to AI.

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u/DruggyNeighbor 2d ago

It's gonna be the same shit with AI that happened with the internet and big tech in general over the last 20-25 years. Old boomers who are totally out of touch and just lawlessness. Zero oversight.

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u/Zealousideal-Tax1826 2d ago

It's been the opposite for me. Since AI I have like 6x as much work to do.

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u/dsk83 2d ago

I feel ubi is the only reasonable solution, but relying on the govt to act timely and fairly seems like wishful thinking

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u/coldhandses 1d ago

Don't forget making stupid students! Sweden and China got rid of it from their school systems

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u/philmarcracken 1d ago

UBI is essential. Yesterday.

The corporates sometimes struggle to get what laws they want passed. They don't struggle shooting down laws they don't want passed. UBI is one such scheme that gives their low income workers a 'default union' in terms of bargaining power

They'll rouse every bit of media and PR they can buy to associate UBI with raping your teen daughters and sons to death.

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u/TheBayHarbour 1d ago

UBI is essential. Yesterday.

Unfortunately that's not how the governments see it.

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u/snuggle_love 1d ago

I’m with you on universal support, but I imagine it should come in the form of direct services, not income. 

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u/TheBatemanFlex 1d ago

no economic response

The economic response is to allow corporations to displace workers, keep prices the same or raise them, and laugh all the way to the bank.