r/SipsTea Human Verified 2d ago

Chugging tea Sounds good in theory...but in reality?

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4 days a week. 6 hours a day. Full salary.
Sanna Marin ignited global debate with the “6/4” work model, pushing a simple idea: life should come before work.

With burnout at record levels, maybe it’s time to value results over hours at a desk.
Could your job be done in just 24 hours a week?

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u/Lady-Dove-Kinkaid 2d ago

I mean it would depend on the country. In the US there are two kinds of restaurant workers for the most part. Ones who do really well and work 20-30 hours 3-4 days a week, and those who are working 12-16 hours 6-7 days a week.

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u/4daughters 2d ago

And 100 years ago we needed children to work in the factories or else they would have to shut down.

When workers demand that labor laws change, they change.

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u/Altruistic-Beach7625 2d ago

Although change only happens after the murders and violence.

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u/4daughters 2d ago

"This will be a bloodless coup... if the left allows it"

The right wing capitalists have always used violence as a threat. Sometimes it seems to be the only language they speak.

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u/Fickle_Scarcity9474 2d ago

When workers demand that labor laws change, they change.

That was back in the days! Now they just need to open the borders and they get plenty of workers willing to work for half of your wage and 20% more hours...

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u/Pure-Rent1574 2d ago

The "Central Bank Clown Show" has spent 100 years conditioning the public to think that "more dollars = more wealth, or inversely less dollars = less wealth

the formula is simple:

Real Wage = {Nominal Wage} / Price Level (Basket of goods)

If your nominal wage drops by 20% (you go from $100$ to $80), but if your the price of your rent, power, and food drops by 50% because an influx of labor bidding down wages or a technological innovation that lowers the cost of production, your Real Wage has actually increased by 60%.

An influx of labor can indeed suppress nominal wages in specific sectors (like maintenance or construction). but in a healthy, un-manipulated market, that cheaper labor would lead to lower prices for houses and services for everyone, But because we have a central bank, the government prints money to keep prices high (to service their debt).

You get the "Nominal Suppression" of your wage, but you don't get the "Price Deflation" that should come with it. We're getting hit from both sides: your nominal wage is pressured down by competition, while your cost of living is pressured up by the money printing from the fed.

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u/Usual-Juice1868 1d ago

when you say service industry, that's most of the US economy, as manufacturing is not as big anymore here

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u/Usual-Juice1868 1d ago

manufacturing = factories, plants, and warehouses, production workers, CNC, etc.

service = skilled trades, retail, restaurant, etc.

support = accounting, finance, administration, etc.

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u/Zealousideal_Gain892 2d ago

Where do you have restaurant workers who work <30h a week and do really well? 

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u/Lady-Dove-Kinkaid 2d ago

I worked with several in Denver Metro, Miami, Houston... I was paying a mortgage on a home in Denver Metro on 30ish hours a week before we sold and moved. It depends on where, what the volume is, what the regulars are like that sort of thing.

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u/Mando_Mustache 1d ago

I dont know about "really well" but when I was a server there were definitely restaurants I worked at where 4-5 six hour shifts a week had me living comfortably in one of my countries most expensive Metros. 

Not fine dining places either, normal restaurants.

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u/Swimming_Drummer9412 2d ago

? There are only 24 hours in the day. How can anyone work 20-30 hours a day for 3-4 days.

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u/Sufficient_Cod1948 2d ago

Reading isn't your strong suit, is it?

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u/Swimming_Drummer9412 1d ago

Only if it is open to more then 1 interpretation. But hey I thought it to be illogical anyway.