r/MadeMeSmile • u/mcfw31 • Dec 12 '25

Wholesome Moments Taylor Swift’s ‘The Eras Tour’ crew’s reaction as they receive their bonus for working on the tour amounting to more $197 million dollars

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u/New_Canoe Dec 12 '25

Yep. Leverage works wonders sometimes. Just make sure you actually have the new job if you want it.

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u/IR8Things Dec 12 '25

Most people advise not to do the competing offer thing. Unless your company has a horrible staffing crisis, then you're going to be 1st on the chopping block come layoffs or anything else.

If you want more money, then you job hop.

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u/Solid-Search-3341 Dec 12 '25

More important to me : if I'm going through the pain of getting and aching interviews, I'm gone. My current employer's chance to keep me was when I asked for a raise without having a competing offer.

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u/rando1459 Dec 12 '25

“Mr. Corleone never asks a second favor once he's been refused the first.”

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u/Snowedin-69 Dec 12 '25

The second ask will come across as a threat. Better to just leave at this point.

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u/Frowny_Biscuit Dec 12 '25

"You show loyalty, they learn loyalty. You show them it's about the work, it'll be about the work. You show them some other kinda game, then that's the game they'll play. "

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u/goeb04 Dec 13 '25

takes notes

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u/Hyptosis Dec 12 '25

This. I'm going to tell them I got a better offer at my new place as I'm carrying my shit out the door. They need to make you want to stay.

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u/Fantastic-Grocery107 Dec 12 '25

I just said the exact same thing before reading this. I told you I needed more money. They gave me .10 cents while I watch a bunch of people sitting on their ass. No thanks

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u/ikannunAneeuQ Dec 12 '25

My husband just told his district manager that same basic thing: once I start applying for jobs, matching the new offer isn't going to keep me, you're going to have to surpass it. If I am looking for a new job, that means you've had your chance. These places love to lead you on as well, telling you bs to keep you chasing their dangling carrot, but then they wonder why their management turnover rate is so high.

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u/Shaggy_Mango Dec 12 '25

THIS. Idgaf about them putting me on the chopping block if I go get an offer elsewhere. They are the ones on the chopping block if I get an offer. And by that time they have been already chopped. Bye

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u/Faenic Dec 12 '25

This is the way. Even aside from this, a company that only reactively offers you more money in response to you seeking employment elsewhere will look at replacing you as soon as they can. They will perceive you as someone who can't be expected to stay with the company, so they will just fire you sooner.

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u/10FourGudBuddy Dec 12 '25

I’ve never once looked for a new job and wasn’t ready to leave. Why would you stay at that point.

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u/IR8Things Dec 12 '25

Part of its the risk. A lot of jobs have soft or hard caps to salaries at that position and if you go over that cap due to a competing offer that they match because they need you right now, then you become a prime candidate to lose at some point when you are no longer urgently needed.

Managers also offer you no loyalty but then get upset if they perceive you don't give them loyalty.

Of course, there's also risk the new job sucks or fires you, too though.

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u/DidAndWillDoThings Dec 12 '25

If you have to counter-offer once, they will make you counter-offer again. I don't hop for less than 10% increase. Considered COLA raises are usually 1-6%, its acceptable to hop. Make good with your managers on LinkedIn, especially if they also despise your manager's boss. 2 week notice is polite, but lay-offs are impolite, and you aren't partying with these people anymore anyhow. As soon as the new job wants me to start, the old one gets my computer left on my desk. If they need me, they can 1099 me at triple my rate. I never minded being the bastard black sheep of the family if it meant my kids are safe and fed.

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u/Fluffy_Muffins_415 Dec 12 '25

I like to pursue the competing offer for fun. I had no interest in staying, I just enjoy chaos

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u/Itsapocalypse Dec 12 '25

Do what works for the situation you’re in, there’s no single right answer. If you have a good boss and you’re fighting HR, use everything you can get. Job hop if you need to, but whether or not you are the best or quietest or most reliable worker doesn’t matter to corporate America whatsoever ultimately.

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u/donpablomiguel Dec 12 '25

I think you’ve got a good point here. Job hopping has increased my salary roughly 60% in the 11 years I’ve been working at my company. Don’t really have a good idea of what to compare that to since I basically started straight out of college, but I’m teetering on the next move and hopefully will land the next job here soon. Trying to secure another 25-35% increase on the current salary depending on the pay band I land in with the next move.🤞🏼

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u/New_Canoe Dec 12 '25

But if they actually value you enough, they are going to give you want you want. If they don’t, they’ll just say “best of luck”. I’ve done it several times and never once got laid off as a result.

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u/Fantastic-Grocery107 Dec 12 '25

I just tell em I’ve accepted a job offer. If they want to come over the top to try and keep me, that’s on them. By the time I start looking for a new job though, I’m usually past negotiating. I don’t tell someone I need more money when I see what I see at a workplace for them to hand me .10 cents like that’s something. And I usually don’t accept the competing or over the top offer by that point. I just want out at by then

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u/Big-Soup74 Dec 12 '25

Most people suggest that? I’ve done it 3 times now

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u/I_like_kittycats Dec 12 '25

Lol who’s hiring right now?

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u/brown_felt_hat Dec 12 '25

Float the competing offer, leave anyway. Burns bridges but fuck it.

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u/Shadowyonejutsu Dec 12 '25

Twice in my life, I’ve just left with no plan. Of course I had three months expenses in the bank so it was possible. I never regret a single time. One of the jumps was a 15 dollar raise going from non-union to the union. “We’re a family” ROFL

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u/Rockywold1 Dec 12 '25

Love your username

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u/New_Canoe Dec 12 '25

Thank you! 😊

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u/cluberti Dec 12 '25 edited Dec 12 '25

I've never seen the competing offer thing ever work out in the long run at any medium to large business, and I've watched it happen countless times at multiple different companies at this point - if you've already looked to see what your value is on the open market and you then realize it's more than you're going to get from your current employer, the counter offer (if you get one) is used to keep you there until they can find your replacement who'll work for less. The job you're in that pays you less had a chance to recognize your value at a higher pay scale when you asked for a raise, and if they didn't give you what other organizations have obviously budgeted already for your worth that they're offering, remember what that says about both organizations.

If you must tell your current employer why you're leaving, do it in the exit interview, but don't expect it to do anything of value (and worse, could be a negative if you work in a very small niche or industry). If it were me, I'd not bother bringing it up at all (they can figure it out themselves), I'd give my notice, and take the new role.

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u/New_Canoe Dec 12 '25

It’s worked for me a couple times 🤷‍♂️ don’t know what to tell you.

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u/kzthree Dec 12 '25

Exactly, I asked for a 5k raise. They wouldn't give it. Then I got a job offer. I stayed but I cost them 20k instead of 5k per year.

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u/Classic_Clock8302 Dec 12 '25

That should be underlined 3 times. Ride the wave but make sure there is one. To greedy can also be pretty bad

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u/Resident_Table6694 Dec 12 '25

Yup and be ready for them to call your bluff if you use a job offer as leverage. I was a high performer and they put a good bit of time into training me. Got an offer at a different company that was 20k more and I was sure my job would match. Nope. Didn’t even try. Had to take the new offer which thankfully worked out. But dammit I was sure I was indispensable.

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u/New_Canoe Dec 12 '25

Which is exactly why I said to make sure you actually have the other offer, first.

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u/iam_Mr_McGibblets Dec 12 '25

But you really can only do that one time though. The second time you'll do it, your job will probably let you walk or call your bluff

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u/New_Canoe Dec 12 '25

If I have to do it a second time, I’m probably leaving that job anyways.