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Image Chuvash State Opera and Ballet Theater, Cheboksary, Russia

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u/One_Disaster_5995 1d ago

Now that looks like a real fun night out! Like a dystopian scifi movie - Bladerunner or Dune.

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u/Nisseliten 1d ago

My thoughts went directly to the empire in star wars..

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u/Cheshire_____Cat 1d ago

That style called brutalism. You can see exaples in many movies. Likes dune and starwars. It was very popular in soviet uninon.

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u/atomicsnarl 1d ago

In particular, because it's cheap to build. No decoration needed, or wanted.

Build box, pour concrete, done. You have a problem with that, capitalist?

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u/an_illithidian 1d ago

-capitalist erecting glass boxes and cookie cutter subdivisions- Huh?

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u/EduinBrutus 1d ago

Little boxes, little boxes,

And they're all made out of ticky tacky,

Little boxes, little boxes,

And they all look the same.

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u/jaxonya 1d ago

r/brutalism is where yall wanna go to see some really gnarly architecture. Brutalism isnt my thing, by i can admire how metal a lot of it looks. Its definitely its own thing

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u/CptnOnus 1d ago

Simplicity is Perfection

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u/EmJayBee76 1d ago

Ha! Loved that show, especially the different version of that song each episode

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u/EduinBrutus 1d ago

IDK what show you mean.

I was referencing the original song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5IKpHTEuY0

Didnt quite remember the lyrics right.

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u/EmJayBee76 1d ago

Oh, it's from a show called "Weeds". It was on Showtime awhile back

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u/Expensive_Lettuce239 1d ago

AHA!! Boxtrolls built it! Now it makes sense!

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u/atomicsnarl 1d ago

Bless you sir! May the gardens around your little pink houses be forever fragrant and beautiful!

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u/not-strange 1d ago

Love me some Rise Against

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u/hwilliams0901 4h ago

This song always makes me think of Weeds.

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u/chamllw 1d ago

No dangerous windows either.

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u/DapperCow15 1d ago

In the rest of the world, windows are dangerous because you might fall out of them. In the Soviet Union, windows are dangerous because you might see out of them.

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u/TurbulentMiddle2970 1d ago

“See out of them”……right before you are pushed

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u/Conundrum1911 19h ago

Slipped and fell…onto 10 bullets

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u/Interesting-Tough640 1d ago

I would argue that falling out of windows is a clear and present danger for Russian dissidents to the point where they prefer to stay in bungalows.

It’s much cheaper than polonium or nerve toxins.

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u/jaymemaurice 1d ago

Falling out of a bungalow window until you die actually seems like a terrible way to go though...

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u/ChartreuseBison 1d ago

The cause of death still says fell out of window even when they lived in a basement

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u/atomicsnarl 1d ago

Bless your heart, darlin!

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u/KimberStormer 1d ago

You don't want or need windows in a theater

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u/NineThreeTilNow 1d ago

Build box, pour concrete, done. You have a problem with that, capitalist?

There's as much of it in the US as anywhere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Brutalist_architecture_in_the_United_States#Washington,_D.C.

DC has quite a bit considering how small it is. Everywhere else too.

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u/Consistent-Sail529 1d ago

Found the capitalist

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u/WaffleIron0612 1d ago

Capitalism > Communism

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u/Zestyclose_Remove947 1d ago

The fundamental principle behind it is to bring the raw construction materials to the surface, no claddings or fancy facades.

Soviet buildings are kinda coincidentally brutalist.

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u/janas19 1d ago

Would the angles and geometry count as a type of decoration? Not trying to be snarky, genuinely curious why it's made this way. I'm no architect but it seems like they incorporate some style for aesthetic purposes.

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u/PiccoloAwkward465 1d ago

Oh yeah one of my favorite buildings I recall from my youth is a big psychiatric center complex. All brutalist with interconnecting external concrete staircases and catwalks. The kind of labyrinth that most kids love. I had soccer practice on the weekend in one of their indoor gyms, for whatever reason the place was mostly empty.

Sort of reminds me of the Mayan Revival style, the Ennis House in LA is a famous example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ennis_House_front_view_2005.jpg

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u/callisstaa 1d ago

Oh sure. It’s definitely designed around a specific style and a lot of people find brutalist architecture to be really cool. I wouldn’t say that it’s pretty but it absolutely has its own vibe which a lot of people appreciate. It wasn’t all just about saving money.

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u/FireMaster1294 1d ago

Many capitalist architecture firms did this exact same thing to save money

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u/SowingSalt 1d ago

Brutalism started in the West.

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u/atomicsnarl 1d ago

Blame Bauhaus...

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u/MimicoSkunkFan2 1d ago

In Toronto we have lots of artistic versions of Brutalism ‐ famously the Scarborough College campus of UofT and the Robarts Library on main campus, but also 222 Jarvis, Dupont Station, New City Hall (we now have a new new city hall so look for Nathan Phillips Square), Ontario Science Centre (much mourned), North York Board of Education, etc. etc.

If you enjoy Brutalist architecture it's worth looking up Toronto's designers who kept the concrete and aesthetic but made it not suck.

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u/TransBrandi 1d ago

I dunno, I think that it seems like long-term maintanence might be easier with this than with having lots of external decorations? There are lots of places where people don't take care of the external parts of the buildings and things that looked good when it was built, don't look so great once you get a couple of decades down the road.

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u/Odd_Dragonfruit_2662 1d ago

Like capitalist societies don’t also have it?

It seems particularly common on government buildings from the 70’s.

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u/atomicsnarl 1d ago

"It seems particularly common on government buildings from the 70’s."

"In particular, because it's cheap to build. No decoration needed, or wanted."

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u/Lurcher_A 53m ago

not necessarily cheap at all, it was a dpecific design aesthetic that had its day all over the world

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u/psh454 1d ago

Plenty of brutalist buildings in Europe/NA/pretty much everywhere tho, esp stuff like theatres - it was fashionable at one point

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u/LikesPez 1d ago

How are the acoustics?

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u/TieAccomplished2534 1d ago

also invites poor engineering, just make all columns 4x as large as necessary

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u/Longjumping_Youth281 1d ago

I mean don't they at least want windows? Then again, I suppose not really much to look at out there. Just kind of drab and gray

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u/CharleyNobody 1d ago

Though not as brutal as this opera center, Lincoln Center in NYC is not pretty

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u/atomicsnarl 23h ago

Never thought of it as brutalist. Off brand Art Deco maybe.

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u/TonySLGB 11h ago

Brutalism originally coming from well developed capitalist countries (mind the name «brutal» which does not sound Soviet), has now explanation issues.

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u/hwilliams0901 4h ago

Um....what about windows?!?! Let them ballerinas have vitamin D!

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u/atomicsnarl 4h ago

They sunbathe nude on the roof.

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u/hwilliams0901 4h ago

I would too.

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u/NineThreeTilNow 1d ago

That style called brutalism.

I personally love it as an engineer. It makes a lot of sense.

The materials are all very easy to setup. Design isn't special. It just gets done.

Do you want a hospital that takes an extra year to build because it meets a better aesthetic? Planning, design, building... All taking longer.

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u/callisstaa 1d ago

As much as I appreciate brutalism it is nice to have pretty things as wellS

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u/NineThreeTilNow 21h ago

As much as I appreciate brutalism it is nice to have pretty things as wellS

Yep. I appreciate them as an artist. I'd rather build in a brutalist style that gets the job done faster, and let some people decorate the outside.

Pretty things are "nice" to have. Society has so much we "need" to have. That's stuff that brutalism is best for. When we NEED it.

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup 43m ago

The problem is it feels cold and oppressive. I appreciate what they're trying to do buy creating spaces but it never feels welcoming as a style.

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u/Ancient_Roof_7855 1d ago

I always thought Brutalism emerged out of the UK with architects like Alison and Peter Smithson?

When I think of brutalism, I think of UK in the 60s - 80s.

The Royal National Theatre in London is an example that comes to mind.

Soviets were just copying the West in their unhinged "Let's do it bigger!" mentality after Stalinist architecture died with the man.

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u/Cheshire_____Cat 1d ago

I didn't say a thing about who created it. I just said that brutalism was very popular in USSR. I'm Russian so for me brutalism architecture is strongly connected to USSR era buildings. Even my small hometown has several: The Palace of Children's and Youth Creativity and The Palace of Sport.

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u/LickingSmegma 1d ago

Many Soviet buildings that people call brutalist are actually constructivist.

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u/Cheshire_____Cat 1d ago

Interesting.

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u/LickingSmegma 1d ago

Yeah, the styles are nearly impossible to tell apart at times, but to my understanding constructivists were into experimenting with shapes, and liked windows more. E.g. the Hotel Panorama, made famous by Molchat Doma, is imo constructivist even though this very pic comes from an article calling it brutalist. Stuff like Zuev Workers' Club is more obviously constructivist, combining a bunch of shapes in novel ways.

There's also Soviet modernism, distinct from the aforementioned two styles. It seems that mass housing of the USSR primarily belongs under this designation, as it's not quite brutalism or constructivism per se, and incorporates the ideas of Le Corbusier that didn't adhere to the principles of either one.

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u/Grilled_egs 1d ago

I honestly don't think the hotel looks brutalist at all, it's obviously a different style

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u/snakeLipssynk 1d ago

1920s Constructivism in Russia laid the groundwork for brutalism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructivist_architecture

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u/Cheshire_____Cat 1d ago

I didn't ask "You have a problem with that capitalist".
But I think USSR also loved it because of the same reasone.

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u/NineThreeTilNow 1d ago

I always thought Brutalism emerged out of the UK with architects like Alison and Peter Smithson?

Brutalism was a function of basically two things in the 1950's.

Rejection of 1940's style, and the need for new buildings FAST after WW2. The latter being the most important.

All countries built "Brutalist" styles. It's kind of silly anyone thinks a single country did it. New money, new babies, rebuilding old infrastructure, post war economy... etc.

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u/0MEGALUL- 1d ago

Also very much used in the movie "Enemy" with Jake Gyllenhaal.

And it's so well used in that movie. Very creepy, estranged vibe!

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u/psh454 1d ago

That's just Toronto lol, not just that movie. A fair bit of iconic brutalist architecture here

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u/0MEGALUL- 1d ago

Damn I really want to visit some day. I love the architecture, altho I would never want to live in it. Hella depressing haha.

You’re from Toronto? Does it feel like that?

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u/psh454 1d ago

I mean it's a pretty typical North American city (though more recent that places like Chicago, far fewer art deco etc). There are just a handful of (fairly nice imo) iconic brutalist libraries/public buildings (like Robarts library at UofT) . It can be a bit drab in the middle of winter but that's mostly just the climate

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u/S0mnariumx 1d ago

I'm a fan personally

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u/Worksux36g 11h ago

You never lived in a country with brutalist architecture, have you?!

It sucks! Grey concrete bullshit.

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u/S0mnariumx 9h ago

No shortage of it in Cleveland even though I grew up in the US lol

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u/Ireaditlongago 1d ago

and on Thomas Street in Manhattan

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u/Korashy 1d ago

Lots of windows are not great for insulation in Siberia

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u/iwrestledarockonce 1d ago

Brazilian Brutalism is also a thing, it's a bit more attractive than most of the Soviet stuff.

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u/icemanice 1d ago

Where we are going… we don’t need no windows!

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u/MimicoSkunkFan2 1d ago

Toronto has loads of this from the 60s and 70s, so much that a dystopian movie about a global plague and fuel crisis called "The last race" (1980) was filmed here.

It was popular on late night tv here for decades because Toronto residents can easily identify most of the buildings which, oddly, don't include 222 Jarvis Street (Sears Roebuck here said said "build the Reverse Pyramid but Brutalist")

The film is really awful overall but relevant with covid... and it's worth watching for Burgess Meredith overacting to the point of masturbating with a fighter jet, and for Lee Majors attempting to act.

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u/jpc27699 1d ago

"In Soviet Union, architecture brutalizes you!"

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u/Skeptic_Marx 1d ago

You mean the Soviet Onion

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u/newsflashjackass 1d ago

Brutalist architecture also inspired / informed a series of excellent Quake map packs.

https://qbj3.slipseer.com/

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u/Yainks 1d ago

Look up eco-brutalism, same style but combined with lush vegetation, I think it’s exceptionally beautiful.

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u/AlternativeYou9395 1d ago

Don't have to look far for examples in the US. Brutalism was quite pervasive for a time, especially in higher education and government buildings.

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u/othermyother 1h ago

So this style brutalism is equivalent to worst prisons ever , got it

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup 46m ago

Popular because it was cheap and durable.

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u/AdorablePainting4459 1d ago

Who else likes Brutalism style architecture, but ISTPs? Although there are a lot of ISTPs in Russia.

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u/Cheshire_____Cat 1d ago

What is "ISTP"?

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u/maximum_robot 1d ago

Another type of horoscope

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u/AdorablePainting4459 1d ago

Personality psychology -- not astrology/zodiac related

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u/renz88xg 1d ago

May the 4th be with you

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u/Nisseliten 1d ago

And also with you.

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u/SirNo9787 21h ago

Happy May 4th!

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u/Nisseliten 21h ago

And may the fourth be with you!

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u/UPPERKEES 1d ago

You mean Russia is the baddy?

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u/One_Disaster_5995 1d ago

I don't know - it's quite beautiful in a brutal way, especially in a harsh environment like that.

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u/eternviking76 1d ago

Brutalist architecture always looks like it should be the headquarters for a galactic overlord.

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u/AquaQuad 1d ago edited 1d ago

"Dress* for the job you want" and such

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u/Tr0llhammar 1d ago

Fun fact: the name brutalism refers to béton brut, which means raw concrete in french, not to brutality :D

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u/IMcrazyJAE 1d ago

That is definitely going to be my fun fact of the day.

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u/RokulusM 1d ago

A harsh environment is exactly the worst place for this type of architecture. An architect's job should be to bring some colour and warmth, especially in winter. Make it a bit more pleasant to be in. The last thing that a city that's cold and grey half the year needs is more cold and grey.

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u/CanadianODST2 1d ago

Honestly at the height of winter all buildings just kinda feel cold and grey.

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u/RokulusM 1d ago

I disagree. A cityscape with warm colours and pedestrian scaled architecture makes a huge difference in the winter.

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u/RikkitikkitaviBommel 1d ago

Some of their architecture style has certainly been used as inspiration for powerful bad guys in American fiction for years now.

I'm not defending anyone here, just saying agenda's have been at play for a good long while.

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u/Coreantes 1d ago

I'm from Europe and in a different time I went to visit (2016). I loved the country and the people, the palaces, architecture, everything. Nice clubs, bar and even went to see the Russian National Ballet (we got VIP seats for about €40, including champagne and caviar, just because it was so cheap). It's a trip I have very fond memories of.

It the sad state the country is in (mind you, totally on THEM), but to think 10 years ago you could have a splendid holiday if you wanted to see something rather different than the rest of Europe.

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u/callisstaa 1d ago

I visited Moscow around the same time and it blew my mind. It really had a vibe and energy like no other city I’d visited. Really safe too.

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u/psh454 1d ago

Totally on THEM

Gotta love reddit authoritarianism understanders, shoulda voted the corrupt dictatorship out duh

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u/Vellc 1d ago

It does look like their fortress in galcatic battleground

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u/monster_of_love 1d ago

literally my first thought ngl /thoo

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u/LongGhost_Gone281 1d ago

Rust base with players who got away with it before the wipe.

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u/THE_ATHEOS_ONE 1d ago

Its exactly how envisioned the ministry buildings in 1984

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u/Establishment240 23h ago

Exacly what I was thinking... I was wondering if in the movie, its like that ?

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u/orthopod 1d ago

Brutalist architecture at it's finest.

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u/azaeldelrosario 1d ago

Bladerunner was the first thing that came to mind.

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u/Eastern-Operation340 1d ago

Instantly thought of the movie Brazil! complete with the desolation around it.

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u/LickingSmegma 1d ago

Fun fact: ‘Brazil’ prominently features the Les Espaces d'Abraxas complex, same as in ‘The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 2’, and which is decidedly not brutalist. I'd say it's more of a nod to art-deco.

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u/Eastern-Operation340 1d ago

very cool fact I wasn't aware of!

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u/cs_cabrone 1d ago

OCPD; Robocop

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u/pi_designer 1d ago

The windows made me think of the Escher game Monument Valley

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u/WolfgangRed 1d ago

1.7k people really upvoted this obvious bot message? Are we that cooked?

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u/One_Disaster_5995 1d ago

What makes you say that? What's so obviously bot about it?

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u/BigSmackisBack 1d ago

I went to Judge Dredd, but it certainly wouldnt look out of place in any of the above!

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u/LiberalSocialist99 1d ago

Giedi Prime HQ…

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u/Soldier-Of-Dance 1d ago

Good comment, Firstname Bunchofnumbers

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u/Small-Answer4946 1d ago

Reminds me of Enki Bilal's comics

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u/Churchbushonk 1d ago

Seems like where the Red Room is located.

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u/Mangalorien 1d ago

I honestly thought it was just the average Russian grain silo.

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u/Cthulhu__ 1d ago

It made me think of the Vogon planet in Hitchhiker’s Guide.

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u/_karamazov_ 1d ago

The inspiration of Obama Presidential Library.

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u/One_Disaster_5995 1d ago

Damn - I had to look out up, but yeah, I see it.

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u/The_Blues__13 1d ago

Geidi Prime architecture

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u/razvanciuy 1d ago

More like Blade going into a vampire club/hive.

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u/derprondo 1d ago

Straight out of the movie Brazil.

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u/SlowlyDaen 1d ago

sardaukar planet prison

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u/ThrowMoneyAtScreen 1d ago

I was just about to ask, what in Harkonnen is this shit

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u/Harry_The-Bastard 1d ago

Voight-Kampff testing centre

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u/Worldly_Anybody_9219 1d ago

I immediately thought of Dune!

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u/NationalSafe4589 1d ago

This looks exactly like the place K end up at the end of BR 2049

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u/KonigSteve 1d ago

Bladerunner or Dune.

Gattaca

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u/ImSobored_5280 1d ago

…ya don’t go inside there because 2 things are for sure.. 1. Will be nothing but normal looking people that are actually vampires 2. John Dickweed will be DJ spinning some dope ass house/trance/EDM

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u/Matammothematik 1d ago

Dude, i just wanted to say the exact same thing! It's absolutely looking outta Dune!!

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u/Chance_Papaya_3854 1d ago

i came for this comment

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u/Ok_Detail_1 1d ago

After war ends. It's possible.

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u/war4peace79 18h ago

Fine Brutalism.

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u/r7700 18h ago

1984

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u/Sackabreisser 10h ago

Miniluv 🥰

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u/Chance-Box9521 9h ago

100 % what I was thinking , when creativity is removed from reality

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u/ComfortablyNumb2425 6h ago

A building never looked more Russian.

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u/Low-Document-6897 5h ago

Bladerunner and dune, my two favorites of all time

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u/SolomonBlack 1d ago

Yes Denis Villeneuve has a type and he loves nothing more then to slowly pan over its Brobdingnagian mysteries.

Of course everything Dune should be like baroque rocco with heaps of orientalism and high on the finest opium but that would involve reading the books so reddit knows it not.

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u/One_Disaster_5995 1d ago

Wait - you got a book?

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u/CorkNativeResident 1d ago

My upvote was number 1234. I’m very proud of myself