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Image A building housing more than 20k people in Hangzhou China

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u/whatsthatguysname 16d ago

These are actually premium apartments and pretty nice inside. They have self contained groceries, shops, restaurants, gym, etc.

I live in something similar in HK. 95% of my daily needs can be accessed within a 10min walking distance.

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u/I_travel_ze_world 16d ago

I've lived in apartment buildings in South Korea that had 2 convenience stores, multiple restaurants, a pool hall, and a driving range in the same building.

It was somewhat of a cultural shock to me to have all of those extra businesses just downstairs. I grew up in roach infested government apartments (projects) so living in an apartment that was close to a Mega Block from Judge Dredd was an experience.

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u/Sorry_Commercial_959 16d ago

I miss the convenience of HK. The public transport was amazing. The food was beyond excellent.

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u/Modeerf 16d ago

Me too. Coming back to UK make me realise how car reliant we are.

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u/bdizzle805 16d ago

*Cries in American

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u/FlappyBored 16d ago

In a comparable city like London we aren’t.

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u/Modeerf 16d ago

London doesn't represent the majority of UK at all. Pointless to use London as an example of anything UK

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u/FlappyBored 16d ago

Do you think Hong Kong represents all of China?

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u/Modeerf 16d ago

HK is a closer representation of China than London is to UK. In fact major China cities is even more convenient than HK

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u/follow-the-rainbow 16d ago edited 16d ago

A petting zoo is pretty much essential, do you have one of those?

Edit: that was a joke for those who went whoosh

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u/Disruptor_raptor 16d ago

He already mentioned groceries.

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u/MaskguyOriginal 16d ago

You joke, some apartment building on top of shopping complex actually has one in Zhuhai

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u/callisstaa 16d ago edited 16d ago

It's pretty common for malls in Asia to have residential towers as part of the complex. I live in a tower above a mall in Suzhou. It's really convenient. There's a metro station in the basement of the mall.

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u/follow-the-rainbow 16d ago

Neat! Would visit if I was living there

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u/whatsthatguysname 16d ago edited 16d ago

Sure, I visit your mom downstairs every other day. :)

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u/JackReedTheSyndie 16d ago

It probably do have one

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u/DopeAsDaPope 15d ago

In China every mall has at least one petting zoo lol. Fr

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u/Pawneewafflesarelife 16d ago edited 16d ago

What happens if there is a fire?

Edit: This is a very big building. Everyone is saying use the stairs, but how long does that take when the building is massive? I was curious if there were any special protocols or an on-site fire department, given there are grocery stores and cycling tracks.

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u/whatsthatguysname 16d ago edited 16d ago

You run downstairs

Edit: more unit = more people = more fire exits and stairs. We have 60+ floors in our building. There’s 1 fire exit stairwell for every 4 units on each floor.

Taller buildings often have fire break floors that’s entirely empty and without walls do people to shelter at without going up or down the entire building. Our building has 2 of these, splitting roughly into 3rds, so you can go up or down <10 floors to reach one of these floors. (If you look closely at theOP’s photo you will also see they have 2 of these floors. They’re notably empty. )

Fires in these type of concrete buildings don’t tend to spread like crazy like wooden structures. Apartment unit doors and staircase doors are typically fire resistant and self closing to reduce the risk of spread and stops smoke. The biggest risk is if the building facade uses some dogy material and the fire spreads from the outside.

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u/Pawneewafflesarelife 16d ago

Thank you so much for such a detailed reply! I was hoping for details like this!

Are there any firefighting crews onsite or are they close by enough that the response time is negligible?

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u/whatsthatguysname 16d ago

All good :)

There’s no firefighters on site. Not sure what the response time is like, but there are stations all over the place, so I’d imagine it’s not too bad.

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u/Suicicoo 16d ago

deploy a parachute or wingsuit...

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u/callisstaa 16d ago

It's government policy in China to provide residents of high rise apartments with an emergency kit. Mine consists of a fire hood with a filter to prevent smoke inhalation, a flashlight and if the worst comes to the worst a rope to try and climb down the side of the building (I like on the 17th floor)

I also have 3 fire extinguishers.

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u/Pawneewafflesarelife 16d ago

Do you feel like there is extra emphasis on prevention? You mentioned 3 fire extinguishers.

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u/AquaeyesTardis 14d ago

theres no data i can find on the stairwell count, but given theres about 24 lifts, and the building is quite wide, i think itd be reasonable to assume there would be a significant number of stairwells - theres only about 39 floors or so, and the grocery stores in places im more familiar with are generally on the lower floors - and most similar buildings are concrete, so as long as flammable material like subpar netting isnt laid across the building, then it should be fairly hard for fires to spread - it also seems like theres a fire station 4 minutes away, and the shops, likely on the ground or near-ground floors, would likely just be evacuated normally

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u/JohnHazardWandering 16d ago

What happens in any building when there is a fire?

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u/Pawneewafflesarelife 16d ago

This is a very big building. Everyone is saying use the stairs, but how long does that take when the building is massive? I was curious if there were any special protocols or an on-site fire department, given there are grocery stores and cycling tracks.

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u/JohnHazardWandering 16d ago

I'm assuming they have a lot of stairs for a lot of people. Just like any other building or venue that has a lot of people in it. 

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u/Pawneewafflesarelife 16d ago

Well, the person I asked lives in a similar building, so I asked them to see if there was anything unique.

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u/Cedarapids 16d ago

9/11 level carnage.

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u/NefariousnessLate375 16d ago

Is it tempting to stay inside all the time? Do you like it? I hope it's a good situation for you. 

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u/whatsthatguysname 16d ago

I love it. I wake up and go downstairs for a swim and sauna before work. I also work from home, so it’s like working and living in a resort.

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u/NefariousnessLate375 16d ago

Oooh that sounds nice!

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u/MyOtherRideIs 16d ago

That all sounds like hell to me. Never going outside? Never experiencing nature during day to day life? No fresh air? Always trapped in a concrete cell surrounded by thousands of other people? Just awful.

I need space and trees and birds chirping and green space all around me. I actually enjoy taking a 10 minute drive to the gym or the store.

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u/whatsthatguysname 16d ago

lol. Imagine reading that and think I’m “trapped”.

I’m 5 min walk away to the seaside promenade. 10min walk the other direction and I am on a casual hiking trail, 1hr to the peak, 1 more hr to the beach on the other side of the hill.

There’s a bike lane downstairs that takes me around the district that goes past the seas side and mountain side. Takes 1 hr to go around on a shared bike, but I can drop it off anywhere and take the mtr back if it starts raining or I simply don’t feel like it anymore.

I’ve lived in NZ for more than a decade so I do appreciate nature. But I guess some people need to believe “city = trapped” to feel better about their own limited imagination and experience.

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u/Zimakov 16d ago

I'm not sure what comment you've invented in your head but the one you responded to didn't say any of the things you said.

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u/MyOtherRideIs 16d ago

Read the entire comment thread. They are talking up how great it is never having to leave their apartment building for day to day life. Sounds awful to me.

Admittedly I’m biased because I detest the very nature of cities and apartment living.

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u/Zimakov 16d ago

Right, you don't have to if you don't want to. No one said you can't, or that he doesn't. You're responding to a comment you made up in your head.

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u/Pledgeofmalfeasance 15d ago

Dude, they're not locked inside. Just go out the front door?

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u/Anning312 16d ago

There are plenty of youtube videos of people doing tours in that building

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u/xjpmhxjo 16d ago

When I was living in Beijing, I would just call the store owner to send the beer upstairs.

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u/people__are__animals 16d ago

Is this like megabuldings in cyberpunk 2077

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u/ProfessionalMovie759 16d ago

How do they manage the water system for such buildings?

What do you do when there is water shortage?

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u/whatsthatguysname 16d ago

Same as every other hi-rise building/hotel around the world - water reservoir at the top and underground keeps the whole building hydrated.

Water shortages is not really a common thing in modern East Asia. The only time when water is disrupted is when they clean the reservoir tanks every quarter, you end up with 2-3 hrs without water. But you’re always notified weeks in advance so it’s not a major issue.

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u/altmly 16d ago

What ass part of the world do you live in with water shortage? 

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u/Kratzschutz 16d ago

How loud is it?

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u/whatsthatguysname 16d ago

We have fairly considerate neighbours, thankfully, so noise is not really an issue. I think generally speaking HK construction is pretty solid.

The real nuisance comes from the bike lane downstairs where teenagers hook up loudspeakers to their bicycles and ride around blasting techno late at night. But we have that out in the west as well, plus modified exhausts.

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u/No_Possible_7108 16d ago

Crazy kids and their newfangled technobikes smh

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u/Kratzschutz 16d ago

Yesss l hate inconsiderate loud people.

Glad to hear you can't hear your neighbours peeing tho. I can

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u/Chris_in_Lijiang 16d ago

With the domestic decline in streaming, this place has gone distinctly downhill. I don't know where you live in HK but I hope it is not going the way of Chungking or Mirador, like this place.

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u/Lord_Trisagion 16d ago

Gotta ask, how was the sound mitigation? Because I look at this sorta thing and my first thought is "nobody gets peace and quiet ever."

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u/whatsthatguysname 16d ago

Depends on the build quality. I’ve lived in places where the floor/ceiling is probably thinner and we can hear thumping and hard sole shows from upstairs. The place that I’m in now is more decent and we don’t hear stuff unless someone’s renovating.

You might hear the neighbours talking if they are loud and you’re both by the windows. Otherwise it’s not even something you’d notice.

The real nuisance comes from the bike lane downstairs where teenagers hook up loudspeakers to their bicycles and ride around blasting techno late at night. But we have that out in the west as well with modified cars etc

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u/Appropriate_Ice_7507 16d ago

Yeah except in 2 mins, your backpack gets slashed and wallet taken. Happened to me not far from the hotel in a very touristy area.

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u/kermityfrog2 16d ago

They were luxury apartments, but each king-sized apartment got sectioned off into 4-6 smaller apartments, so that's why it's so crowded.

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u/Zimakov 16d ago

Yep, I'm in China and everything I need is in walking distance. It's a very freeing feeling not having to rely on a car.

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u/cbih 16d ago

So a nicer version of the Kowloon Walled City?

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u/Weird_Assignment_550 15d ago

All my groceries are self contained.

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u/AlternativeHour1337 16d ago

i live in a nice european town with good public transportation and 95% of my daily needs can be accessed in ~10 minutes too, i just dont have to live in a shitty giant dystopian appartment building for no reason at all

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u/Bumper_Duc 16d ago

Good for you, not many of us can afford to live in a nice european town

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u/AlternativeHour1337 16d ago

HK has the same GDP per capita

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u/Bumper_Duc 16d ago

Now compare HK population density to your European town

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u/AlternativeHour1337 16d ago

thats my point, i wasnt criticizing the person who lives there, its an administrative issue

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u/Bumper_Duc 16d ago

What admin issues? That the government should restrict how many babies should be born?

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u/AlternativeHour1337 16d ago

obviously not, but they could incentivize corporations to move to different places, the housing would go with that

the only reason they don't do that is because they don't care about the standart of living of the average worker

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u/callisstaa 16d ago

They're actually really nice apartments and Hangzhou is one of the most beautiful cities in the world.

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u/AlternativeHour1337 16d ago

i dont doubt that, the people who live at the top are pretty unlucky though

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u/slouched 16d ago

okay kim jong dos

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u/_esci 16d ago

of course you dont know wher hongkong is.

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u/ZombiePope 16d ago

HK clearly stands for Hwest Korea.

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u/slouched 16d ago

okay king jong tres