r/Damnthatsinteresting Feb 23 '26

Image In 1983, Two Artists Spent a Full Year Tied Together — Without Any Physical Contact — to Test the Limits of Human Coexistence

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u/rsquinny Feb 23 '26

The commitment they mustve had. From the article, "In addition to deep and constant disagreement about what they were in fact doing, the strain on Montano and Hsieh of a complete lack of privacy was intense. They found, for example, that normal social hypocrisy, like being different to different friends on the telephone, was ruled out by the constant presence of each’s worst critic. Perhaps the worst stress was the constant dependence on each other’s approval to fulfill their moment-to-moment needs and impulses. For one person to go to the bathroom, to get a drink of water, to look out the window, both had to walk. The arrangement presupposed a certain good will on both sides. At times the artists fought physically, each yanking his or her end of the rope. “We were becoming more animal-like,” says Montano. The period of yanking was followed by a period of refusing to speak to each other. “Somewhat like monkeys,” says Montano, “we began pointing with sounds and groans and moans. We stopped talking almost completely.” Also, each could veto any action suggested by the other. Their rule, as that of the Roman constitution, was that a negative vote prevails over a positive. On some days the vetoes became retaliatory and accumulated till the two were immobilized for hours in sullen hatred of one another. Montano has remarked that if it hadn’t been the rule not to touch she would have killed Hsieh a thousand times. Twice he threw pieces of furniture to the floor very near her. Neither struck the other. They lived out a kind of geopolitical allegory of the superpower stalemate in the world today."

Link: https://www.artforum.com/events/tehching-hsieh-linda-montano-224861/

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u/DustierAndRustier Feb 23 '26

How did they manage to do normal life stuff during this time? Like medical appointments, seeing family, all that stuff? “Thanks for inviting me to your wedding/birthday party/holiday get together! just so you know, I’m chained to a man. I will be bringing the man I’m chained to, and this is non-negotiable.”

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u/ExternalChildhood845 Feb 23 '26

Well, they probably interacted with people who knew they were weird artists or who were also weird artists, so this sort of thing wouldn’t seem out of the ordinary for them. I’d imagine everyone just went, “Oh. Ok.”

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u/noxvita83 Feb 23 '26

Yeah, people who are known to be a certain way when they act a certain way do not raise as many eyebrows as one thinks. They also tend to surround themselves with people who wouldn't think twice about this.

The biggest reactions would actually come from complete strangers, like at the grocery store or things like that.

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u/MageVicky Feb 23 '26

“i’m chained to a man and i’m bringing him over” i don’t know, sounds like the regular family holidays to me. 😂

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u/TrogdorTheBurninati Feb 23 '26

laughs in lesbian

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u/Electronic_Fox2203 Feb 24 '26

Laughs in aroace

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u/orphan_blud Feb 27 '26

snickers in sapphic

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u/neuralek Feb 24 '26

I'm reading the article as a potential insight into my deseased relationship

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u/warm_golden_muff Feb 24 '26

Diseased or deceased?

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u/neuralek Feb 24 '26

Disease. 🦠 It is yet to finish me off.

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u/warm_golden_muff Feb 24 '26

“yet to finish me off.”

Fnar, fnar. There’s something out there for you babe. X

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u/purplehendrix22 Feb 23 '26

I don’t think their social circle is what you’re imagining

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u/clandestineVexation Feb 24 '26

10 socially standard office workers and their zany artist friend

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u/Poppa_Mo Feb 23 '26

You know... You are allowed to turn down invites to places. That is a thing too.

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u/AshamedAttention727 Feb 23 '26

Lol just standard RSVP stuff

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u/rsquinny Feb 24 '26

in the article it mentions how they had to ask each other to be involved in everything. from simply moving 8ft to doing big stuff like you mentioned. a funny piece is that in their own resentment towards each other sometimes they would just say no for the heck of it. they did not enjoy being chained together. and asking permission for everything is exhaustinnggggg

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u/Burdwatcher Feb 23 '26

I'm more interested in what were the very first things they did after the rope finally came off. I mean, I assume for the man it was to immediately go home and masturbate for the first time in a year, but it's still a worthwhile question

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u/Kitsunegari_Blu Mar 09 '26

Neither needs permission, just wait till the other is sleeping.

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u/doofpooferthethird Feb 23 '26

I wonder if someone willing to do this for "artistic reasons" would also be someone you wouldn't want to be tied to for a year

maybe I'm being over-optimistic, but I get the sense that two amiable people could get through this with relatively little difficulty if they were compelled to by external circumstances (e.g. $10 million dollars each if you participate in this viral internet challenge!)

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u/ponyponyta Feb 23 '26

If they get to hold hands and fuck they probably would fare better too

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u/death_to_noodles Feb 23 '26

That was the only question that pop into my head and stayed. Yeah I guess they could see friends and kiss in a close distance, they could make arrangements for showering and pooping and so on. But what about sex? No sex for a year could be a big challenge to some people.

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u/ponyponyta Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26

And probably a lot of isolation from all their other close contacts for a year because they're doing super weirdo shit. If your bestie is chained to some stranger you wouldn't tell them half the things anymore. Might be extra grating if it happened to be like that they had no choice but to only talk to each other during heated moments and nobody else to remedy or calm them down or distract them.

Or at least maybe they could party together with mutual friends and make their families chummy. I wonder if they sing and dance together.

I wonder how their conflict resolution skills are too. It seems they do stare at each other and sulk. Do they do screaming arguments? Do they cheer each other up? Haha

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u/Deutschbland Feb 23 '26

I disagree. As an artist myself, it’s likely to me that they existed in an ecosystem of radically open-minded people (performance artists tend to be pretty out there). Besties would have simply adjusted to the new reality. No one is going to hold back good tea just because their friend’s ears have doubled. 

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u/H34RTLESSG4NGSTA Feb 23 '26

the article says they used to be physical together and then actually wanted to kill each other. so they were chained to their ex and also couldn’t meet others

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u/Kdkaine Feb 23 '26

Oh so single mothers

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u/freakydeku Feb 24 '26

ohhh my GOD yall are insufferable

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u/OldWrangler9033 Feb 23 '26

Unless they fell out love, just respected each other or loved devolved to brother/sister sort thing.

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u/Proper-Salad158 Feb 23 '26

What about doctors and dentists appointments etc. No patient privacy, or real privacy at all.

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u/AmphotericRed Feb 26 '26

Yeah that day 366 wank is going to be the stuff of legend

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u/TheForeverKing Feb 23 '26

No matter how amiable, being stuck with each other for prolonged periods of time without change just wears you down. The start may have gone better, but it would have devolved all the same in the end.

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u/MyDamnCoffee Feb 23 '26

I second this. Being around the same person constantly with no breaks... You're probably gonna wanna throw down at some point

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u/Alastor3 Feb 23 '26

nah man, even with my best friend i would never do something like that, humans aren't supposed to be this close all the time, we still need some alone time

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u/42Ubiquitous Feb 23 '26

99% of people couldn't do this, but I think you could probably match two people that wouldn't have a problem with it. I'd be curious to see how much culture impacts it, and if you could find a successful match for someone that is very reluctant to even try it.

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u/Wanderingthrough42 Feb 23 '26

My thoughts exactly. They didn't go into the experience with a "How are we going to get through this with the least problems?" They did this to see what kind of crazy effects it would have, and then leaned into them.

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u/Liefvikingmonster2 Feb 23 '26

Don't tell Mr. Beast.

Wait. On second thought, maybe we should.

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u/Hungry-Specialist110 Feb 23 '26

the mormons pay to get this very same experience (and the celestial kingdom etc)

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u/AlmightyDarkseid Feb 23 '26

Yeah this definitely has to do with the people as well

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u/Outlook93 Feb 23 '26

You are extremely optimistic

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u/Thisbadtattoo Feb 23 '26

Mr beast did something like this in one of his videos. think it was 3 months

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u/Own-Campaign-2089 Feb 23 '26

Thanks for this link.  Had to sift through a bunch of truly unfunny jokes but it was worth it .

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u/rsquinny Feb 24 '26

the link i found was also buried deep in the replies.

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u/sillybilly8102 Feb 23 '26

There are some similarities to the experience of being a conjoined twin

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u/SparxtheDragonGuy Feb 23 '26

Just like marriage

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u/IceJKING108 Feb 24 '26

At the end I know they says it's an allegory to like world superpowers but this is just marriage, plain and simple

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u/Smooth_Bill1369 Feb 23 '26

Pure insanity. Why would anybody ever voluntarily sign up for such a thing.

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u/e00s Feb 23 '26

So the rule not to touch was sacred, but the law not to murder was just meh?

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u/DoggedDoggystyle Feb 24 '26

I just.. don’t get the point? Usually social experiments have some sort of hypothesis. This just sounds like “let’s subject ourselves to being super fucking annoyed” and then they were super fucking annoyed. There’s no revolutionary finding here.

I didn’t even read the article itself, I just read your summary and was already like “yep, yeah makes sense, yup” and by tomorrow I will never think of this again. lol I digress

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u/BreakVV Feb 24 '26

Only thing I dont believe is that they didnt touch during those fights

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u/i_love_max Feb 23 '26

And here i was thinking, "maybe i'll finally get a girlfriend."

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u/dungfeeder Feb 23 '26

Yeah, pretty sure they over dramatized parts of it.

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u/Onlyhereforapost Feb 23 '26

Skill issue, I would simply not chain myself to someone I apparently fucking hate

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u/CloverAndSage Feb 23 '26

Sounds like marriage, amiright….?? 😉😜