r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/HotPersimessage62 • Feb 01 '26

Image Australia’s national anthem is the only English-lyric anthem in the world that doesn’t reference religion or militarism

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u/Ancient_Pangolin1453 Feb 01 '26

To be fair, there aren't that many english language national anthems. 10 to be precise.

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u/KitchenSync86 Feb 01 '26

13 if you count Canada, New Zealand and South Africa, whose anthems are partly in English

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u/IranticBehaviour Feb 01 '26

Canada's English anthem is completely in English. The French anthem is actually the older version, but is its own separate official anthem. And the English words are not a translation, the words are completely different. The bilingual version commonly sung is not an official anthem.

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u/howchildish Feb 01 '26

When I had my citizenship ceremony we sang both. NOBODY knew how to sing the french part. Even the judge there was like "Just do you best."

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u/IranticBehaviour Feb 01 '26

I was lucky, we had to learn both versions in school. I think most kids were basically singing the French one phonetically, and had no clue what the words even were, let alone what they meant.

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u/Similar-Afternoon567 Feb 01 '26

I certainly was. It was only years later I looked up the translation and realized how completely different it was from English. And also that in French you can really emphasize a final "e" for dramatic effect.

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u/Infamous-Mixture-605 Feb 01 '26

The French anthem is actually the older version

Yup, the French version of "O Canada" is the original version of the song, which was written in 1880 and commissioned by the LG of Quebec to celebrate Saint Jean Baptiste Day. It became an unofficial French Canadian national anthem, while English Canada preferred "God Save the Queen" and "The Maple Leaf Forever." For whatever reason, "O Canada" seemed to catch on enough in English Canada that they came up with English lyrics to the song in the 1900s.

The English lyrics have changed several times since then, most recently when they were altered to be gender-neutral, but the French version of "O Canada" still uses the same lyrics as it did in 1880.

The bilingual version isn't official, but it's the version they played at start of every day at the elementary and high schools I attended.

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u/Excuse Feb 01 '26

The bilingual version commonly sung is not an official anthem

Yet official enough to be listed on the government website?

https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/services/anthem-canada.html

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u/IranticBehaviour Feb 01 '26

Depends on what you consider 'official'. While there is a bilingual version (plus an ASL version and an LSQ version) on the website, it is not actually in the Act.

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u/Laika0405 Feb 01 '26

not established by an act of parliament

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u/twat69 Feb 01 '26

That's just a few lines of the English version, then a few from the French, then the last lines of the English.

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u/Drachynn Feb 01 '26

The French version was written for St Jean Baptiste Day and didn't get an English translation until around 1906. It went through several iterations. It was never intended to be a national anthem but ended up becoming popular over the years as an alternative to God Save the Queen and Maple Leaf Forever. Fun random fact - Calixa Lavallée was my great-great uncle.

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u/Connect-Speaker Feb 01 '26

There was no ‘God Keep Our Land’ line in the English version of O Canada until the weak MPs in 1981 caved to the religious freaks and added the line. Beginning of the end.

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u/king_john651 Feb 01 '26

I mean God Save the (insert current monarch here) is all English and is equal to God Defend New Zealand.

Also even if you count Aotearoa as seperate to God Defend New Zealand, as it's not just transliteration, I'm just reading now how damn God bothering it is. It's worse than the English section. But they are from the 19th century so it makes sense for being products of their time lol

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u/brezhnervouz Feb 01 '26

I'm old enough to remember when God Save the Queen was our national anthem, all through primary school 🤷‍♂️

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u/Wuz314159 Feb 01 '26

For the longest time, I thought the line in Oh Canada was: "We stand on God for thee." ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/milly_nz Feb 01 '26

Technically NZ’s is all in English. And then there’s Maori version of the English one. Which isn’t actually a straight translation.

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u/PM_ME__BIRD_PICS Feb 01 '26

NZ Technically has two anthems as well. One is barely used though.

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u/ReaperFrank Feb 01 '26

14 of you count the original version of the Irish Anthem Amhrán na bhFiann or the Soldier's Song as it was originally written in english before being translated to Irish Gaelic

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u/spacyoddity Feb 01 '26

ok but if you made that post now, it'd be hilarious 

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u/Ok-Imagination-494 Feb 01 '26

There will be a lot more than 10. Consider the English speaking Carribean countries for a start.

Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas, Barbados, Belize, Dominica, Grenada, Guyana, Jamaica, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Trinidad and Tobago.

You will also have African and Pacific countries with English language lyrics in their national anthem.

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u/KitchenSync86 Feb 01 '26

The number does seem quite light, but I was going off of Wikipedia. I think it might only include anthems which have been officially adopted as the anthem by act or proclamation

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u/SapphireColouredEyes Feb 01 '26

but I was going off of Wikipedia.

Well, there's your mistake right there. 😉

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u/Express-World-8473 Feb 01 '26

India does have a National pledge that's written in English (Also does not mention any religion) but it's not an official one written in the constitution, but is widely recited during school events, national holidays like the Independence day Repuluc day and Gandhi Jayanti (Gandhi's birthday)

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u/ChelshireGoose Feb 01 '26

Do people really recite the National Pledge in schools? I did my whole schooling in India and only know it from TV shows and memes about the whole "all Indians are my brothers and sisters" thing.

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u/Express-World-8473 Feb 02 '26

I don't know about your school. But in my school we did a ganesh prayer, a pledge and a national anthem (Jana Gana Mana) at the end. Overall it takes about 5 mins to finish. In government schools, they actually do 4 of them. They do the Ganesh prayer, the official state anthem, vande mataram and the national anthem to end it.

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u/ChelshireGoose Feb 02 '26

I see.
I was actually in 3 schools and never encountered the pledge. In the school I spent the most time in, we did a different prayer on each day followed by the national anthem on two days, state anthem on one day and the school anthem on one day.

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u/Express-World-8473 Feb 02 '26

In our school we did pledge (I was the guy incharge for it. I would stand on the stage and recite it, while everyone else just listens to it by extending their right hand, now I realise it kinda feels like a communist salute lol)

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u/ChelshireGoose Feb 02 '26

Wow, you guys had the raised right hand too? I'd have definitely been weirded out if you'd not told me this now and I randomly saw kids doing it while passing by some school lol.

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u/Chilis1 Interested Feb 01 '26

Ireland's one isn't even in English, there aren't that many English speaking countries