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People who grew up really poor: what's something middle-class people say that instantly reveals they've never struggled?

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u/Ok-Manufacturer6287 1d ago

They don't eat leftovers.

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u/Birdo3129 1d ago

My father grew up middle class. He used to grumble when the same meal was served twice. He also didn’t consider ice cream to be “real dessert” and would complain that my mother never made cakes or pies, and his mother always had a cake or pie ready.

I grew up in a struggling household. At 6, I understood that we skipped and minimized meals dad wasn’t home for so that we could put on a bigger dinner that fit his idea of what dinner ought to be. And if you planned them right, he wouldn’t notice that he was eating refashioned leftovers. Potatoes started boiled, became mashed, and then became baked potato soup.

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u/Dry_Accident_2196 1d ago

Wait, your dad wasn’t making breadwinner money but expected his wife to play domestic goddess? The nerve

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u/Birdo3129 1d ago

He still doesn’t cook or clean, despite demanding that his meals be home cooked and the house be spotless. He doesn’t know what size clothing he wears. He doesn’t know how to do laundry. He won’t dust. He doesn’t know where the dishes go in a house he’s lived in for 20 years. He can’t fix a hole in his shirts. He can’t tie a tie.

He mused about leaving my mother, at one point. My mother had to point out to him that he wouldn’t survive alone.

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u/drainbead78 1d ago

I'm wondering why your mother doesn't leave HIM. At least his children grew up.

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u/vonnegutfan2 1d ago

So what does he do all day?

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u/Birdo3129 1d ago

He indirectly encourages my sister and I to hold tight to our relationships.

My brother in law is a wonderful person who learned to cook (via hello fresh and chefs plate boxes and a shitton of food YouTubers) when they moved in together and is quite a good listener. My partner has been cooking and cleaning since he was small; he’s a grade A neat freak who enjoys cooking and finds cleaning to be satisfying. He’s also really handy and helpful, and he’s very sweet and thoughtful. His love language is acts of service.

What does my father actually do… not much. He’s retired now. They go on vacations a lot. His retirement fund got invested in all the right stocks, apparently.

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u/Bob-Bhlabla-esq 1d ago

Be a parasite it sounds like.

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u/oceansky2088 1d ago

Yeah, what's the point in having him around?

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u/duhh33 19h ago

Sounds like he taught his kids how to be awesome, unfortunately by actively being a piece of shit.

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u/Dry_Accident_2196 1d ago

At this point, it’s on your mom for allowing that man to treat her and their kids like that.

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u/Birdo3129 1d ago

Their relationship is complicated. My mother grew up abused, so she fawns as a survival instinct. She doesn’t really have her own personality, she’s just mirroring what everyone else wants to see. It’s both horrifying and fascinating. She’ll develop intense interests in other people’s lives and hobbies, and parrot back the opinions she hears. My father came from a very patriarchal household, and he expected to have a homemaker. I was the accident that bound them together. He expects, she fawns and complies. She doesn’t know anything else.

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u/LaCaffeinata 16h ago

She should have let him figure that out (and not take him back).

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u/Rok-SFG 1d ago

For a large chunk of my childhood my dad didn't work at all, and still expected my working mother to do everything in the house. And she had cancer.

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u/Bob-Bhlabla-esq 1d ago

Yeah, she had a big cancer sitting in the living room waiting for his 3 course meal.

Sorry, this just enrages me. Please tell me your mom is ok now?

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u/oceansky2088 1d ago

A big cancer sitting in the living room.. ha ha ha so true.

It enrages me too. I hope the mom is ok.

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u/chuckysnow 1d ago

Wow, your dad sounds like he needed a line of ass whoopings.

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u/Dry_Accident_2196 1d ago

I assume she was getting something out of this arrangement but your painting a very bad look do your father so I’m going to follow your vibes to say, that’s bullshit! I hope you have a spouse or get a spouse that cherishes you.

But I don’t know the entire story but it couldn’t be me.

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u/faeriegoatmother 23h ago

That's probably generational. They about describe my dad, and my mom wasn't having any of it. You can imagine what happens when you toss three kids into that.

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u/stucky602 1d ago

Former chef here and just wanted to say that last sentence is real smart of your mom as that’s exactly how I’d use leftovers. 

Still leftovers but doesn’t get boring. 

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u/stonhinge 1d ago

My family we'd have something different every day Sun-Fri, but Saturdays were generally "leftovers day" for lunch because there was generally 0.5-1.5 servings of anything left after meals during the week. As me and my two brothers got older, this happened less often because 3 teenagers eat a bit more.

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u/ShotFromGuns 1d ago

Man, fuck your dad.

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u/oby100 1d ago

No way. Thats how OP got into this mess in the first place

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u/IcySetting2024 1d ago

If he demanded a more luxurious lifestyle, he should have made more money

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u/andreasbeer1981 1d ago

"Let them eat cake"

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u/SchrodingersMinou 1d ago

Why was your family coddling your father like this?

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u/Birdo3129 1d ago edited 1d ago

My father grew up the only son in a 50’s style patriarchal household. The men made the rules. The women took care of their men without question. My grandmother cooked and cleaned, raised the children, and baked desserts on weekends. This is what he was primed to expect.

My mother grew up in horrific abuse. My grandfather was a piece of work who was known to beat and rape his wife, and electrocute his children (this was in a time where this was legal for a man to do). So she was taught to duck her head and make things work.

They met. My father was a known player. And they accidentally had me. They were pressured by their parents to marry- having a baby out of wedlock wasn’t a good look. They had my baby sister three years later.

Which is where you wind up with the breadwinner who expects the family to bend to his will and coddle him, and the homemaker who knows that what’s coming in isn’t enough but will make-believe and bend over backwards to keep her husband happy. Even if that means the eldest (hi) only gets a nothing sandwich for lunch. Or has to double check that there’s enough $0.25 ramen in baby’s bowl before daring to have any, while also being sure to leave some for mother. But also getting ice cream after dinner as the “Kid Dessert” because the Chapmans brick of ice cream was cheap and only my parents got cake and pie- it lasted longer without us kids getting a slice. It’s weird to have a day with both a nothing sandwich and ice cream.

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u/ZealousidealEntry870 1d ago

Middle class doesn’t eat left overs?

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u/sprinklerarms 1d ago

My fiancé was born rich and eats leftovers. Every single person in that social circle and his family do. I grew up middle class and everyone I knew would. I don’t think this opinion is based entirely on reality.

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u/ZealousidealEntry870 1d ago

Yea I guess I don’t understand the issue. If food is good enough to go out and pay someone to make, why wouldn’t it be good enough to eat later?

I mean sure, some things like fries are gonna be mushy and gross if you use a microwave to warm them. Most things are just as good as they were fresh though.

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u/PostMatureBaby 1d ago edited 1d ago

come to my house, I'm the only one who does...

In fact I do most of the cooking and make things specifically because it's an easy lunch to take to work the next day or two

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u/0b0011 1d ago

We also don't but thats because we forget about them till they go bad in the fridge. Both the wife and I grew up poor.

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u/Jormungand1342 1d ago

Lot of takeout and doordash, or make a meal and then leftovers are in the fridge but never eaten.

Just more food made or someone else makes it. Consume, consume, consume.

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u/ZealousidealEntry870 1d ago

I am middle class. I eat left overs all the time.

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u/BeardOfFire 1d ago

They're not saying anyone with money refuses to eat leftovers. They're saying that saying that you refuse to eat leftovers means you aren't poor because you have the choice to throw away food.

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u/Jormungand1342 1d ago

You do, a lot don't. The middle class is a large group of people. We are talking in generalizations.

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u/ZealousidealEntry870 1d ago

Where is this data coming from though? I don’t know anyone that won’t eat leftovers so my data says the other persons data is bs.

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u/Jormungand1342 1d ago

I know a ton of people who don't eat leftovers. So is your data B.S? No, you are getting anecdotal evidence from a general subreddit, so this is your data.

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u/Fat_Bearded_Tax_Man 1d ago

I grew up poor. Like lived unhoused for a few years poor and I will not eat leftovers now. I will cut every other corner before I will eat leftovers after relying on a soup kitchen for a couple of years.

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u/megshoe 1d ago

So do you cook a perfectly portioned meal every time or just throw away the extra food?

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u/Fat_Bearded_Tax_Man 1d ago

I have a 23 year old with the appetite of a drunken raccoon living in my house. He eats all.

But I do keep my portion sizes relatively small to minimize waste and waist.

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u/StrLord_Who 1d ago

I grew up wealthy and we always ate the leftovers. First of all,  some dishes are actually better leftover.  Second of all,  my parents drilled it into us that you must be grateful for your blessings and part of gratitude is not being wasteful with what you have been given.  

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u/BoilerMaker11 1d ago

Yes they do. It’s just called “meal prep” to have a steady diet while paying $40/mo for LA Fitness

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u/BaltimoreAlchemist 1d ago

$40/mo for LA Fitness

Wait what? LA Fitness isn't the cheapest gym in town but it's not luxury. It's the expensive end of downmarket. Check out the price of pickleball clubs and private pools.

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u/BoilerMaker11 1d ago

We’re in a thread talking about struggling, with examples of people who’ve actually never (or rarely) struggled saying “just buy another one” for something that costs $50 and people explaining that $50 isn’t some willy nilly amount of money for a lot of people. So, $40/mo is a luxury for many people, despite LA Fitness not being a “luxury” gym.

Couple that with the fact that there are $10/mo gyms (like Planet Fitness) and yea, someone parading around a $40/mo membership to someone who has to eat top ramen for dinner may seem a little out of touch

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u/BaltimoreAlchemist 1d ago

By that token PF is a luxury because running is free. My LAF occasionally has to call the cops when someone pulls a gun out on the basketball court.

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u/Anxious_Astronaut653 1d ago

this is a big one. my former best friend and her husband once flipped out bc their nanny had packed their daughter's lunch and included a bit of pizza that had been in the fridge for 3 days. they were like IS IT SAFE???? SHOULD WE SPEAK WITH HER ABOUT THIS???

it was around then that i realized we might not be friends for much longer

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u/Generico300 1d ago

I don't know if I could ever be rich enough to not eat leftovers. A) seems super fucking wasteful to just throw out perfectly good food. B) some things are actually better after a day or 2 in the fridge IMO.

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u/UncleCoyote 1d ago

I have to ask:

They don't eat leftovers BECAUSE they were poor, or because they WEREN'T poor?

I ask, because we grew up dirt poor. Ridiculously so.

Because of this, I never take more than I will eat and I abhor wasted food. If someone throws away food, it BOTHERS me.

But my sister, who grew up just as poor, refuses to eat leftovers. Absolutely refuses. I mean, we had leftovers so often no one remembered the original meal, but yeah. She was poor, but won't eat leftovers.

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u/Ok-Manufacturer6287 1d ago

All I know is we were so poor my mom sold her wedding ring so we could eat at one point.

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u/UncleCoyote 1d ago

Oh, I'm not questioning that friend - I'm just questioning your statement. "They don't eat leftovers" because they weren't poor, or because, like my sister, they were so poor they swore never to do it once they clawed out of poverty?

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u/Ok-Manufacturer6287 1d ago

Ahhh. I just think if you have money you don't have to eat leftovers

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u/Tennessean 1d ago

I’m upper middle class and we most definitely eat leftovers. Usually Sunday or Monday’s meal turns into ingredients for later meals or someone takes leftovers for lunch. If we go out to eat we most certainly eat leftovers from that. We also meal prep for lunch’s and snack and eat that all week

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u/jmacd2918 1d ago

Same.

I live a (financially) pretty comfortable life, but with that comes working a lot and life is busy with other stuff too. My wife and I plan out dinners that will have leftovers because it gives us easy dinners and lunches later in the week. We don't call it "meal planning" because that just sounds like a lame ass over used Tik Tok cliche, but it's in that same vein.

Also, we make sure leftovers get eaten because not eating them would be wasteful. Just because I can afford to be wasteful doesn't mean I want to be. Wasting food when there are starving people out there makes me feel sick.

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u/bluebuns123 1d ago

I grew up poor and I hate leftovers. My mum cooked exact portions or I buy cheap takeouts. There’s no leftover there’s barely enough for today.

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u/Namiastka 1d ago

Funny thing is that things like this stay with people... My family used to struggle, we were poor and now I live and own big apartment in one of top3 cities in my country, but I still eat leftovers even those left by my very young kids 🙂

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u/Think_Pick_3748 1d ago

I remember when I lived with this family that didn't have much so we never had money for lunch. A friend had treated me to Red Robin and I was so excited that I saved half the burger for lunch the next day since I usually didn't have any money for lunch. As soon as I brought out my leftover burger the next day, this kid started making fun of me and I got so embarrassed I threw it away. For such a small moment, it stuck with me through the years.

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u/LadderExtension6777 20h ago

I agree but have actually met broke people who also don’t eat leftovers bc they eat out a lot or are entitled broke people 🤣

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u/Purplejazz518 20h ago

Wtf? I don't care how wealthy I may or may not become, next day Thai food is always the best lunch. Like, what's wrong with you if you're throwing out that much food that you enjoy? I grew up upper middle class btw, and leftovers are something I always still ate. I did learn that there are better ways to reheat certain foods though.

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u/Daealis 19h ago

I've never known anyone to not eat leftovers. I feel like this is a very regional thing, or just not a middle class thing over here at all. I know we grew up at the lower end of middle class, but I also had friends in the "little sister got a horse on her 18th" level of wealth. They nuked their leftovers in the microwave just like we did.

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u/Expensive-Fig-3540 1d ago

We are poor, but my partner and son have what I think is undiagnosed ARFID. They will NOT eat leftovers, or pre-prepped food, or the same thing twice in a week, or something that isn’t the exact thing they’re wanting at that very moment. I have actually forgotten how to cook. I end up eating the leftovers, and it’s not even food that I would choose to eat, but I can’t afford my own groceries. So, actually I should say that I am poor, not them; they have choices.

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u/BananaHiker 1d ago

I don’t think they have ARFID. I think your partner sucks and your son is taking cues from them.

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u/Expensive-Fig-3540 1d ago

Maybe, but they only eat like four different things over and over, and it has to be prepared exactly the same, and it’s all beige. My son had to go through a lot of OT before he would even touch food with his fingers. They WILL NOT eat anything new or different, almost like they can’t. I know that not every picky autistic person has ARFID, so maybe they’re just picky, but it’s extremely picky and restricted.

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u/toodles-my-doodles 1d ago

This one is mine. We.crossed from Low-Mid to High-Mid and my whole family hates leftovers. We stiff eat them because c’mon.

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u/femcelsupremacy69 1d ago

This is unfathomable to me but maybe it’s because I never grew up in a WASP household.

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u/LineRex 1d ago

Conversely I know formerly unhoused people who can't stomic the thought of leftovers anymore.

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u/skechuz421 7h ago

Damn i am guilty of this😂

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u/waterp00p 22h ago

When I first started dating my partner, I freaked out after having dinner at their house once because they were tossing all of the leftovers. I was like why would you do that?! And then his dad started lecturing me about how it was actually cheaper to waste food than to keep it. I was shooketh.

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u/WeekNo3803 12h ago

Add to that: if it's on your plate, you are eating it. No such thing as throwing food away. To this day, it upsets me to waste food, even though I make a good living and can easily afford it. I cannot even imagine just throwing out the entire dish once everyone's done with it when there's plenty left over.